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saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
1. After the 72 election, it became
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:43 PM
May 2016

clear that voters are far from as discerning a bunch of folks as one might hope they were.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
2. Indeed. It's certainly not on Bernie or his supporters. Bernie didn't sell out Democratic values.
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016


If Dems had voted their values, and w/o bald cynicism in this primary, we'd have a party united around Bernie and a Trump presidency would be a laughable proposition.
 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
4. On a superficial level there is similarity, but Obama was not under criminal investigation
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

by the FBI and didn't have the possibility of indictment hanging over his head. He also did not have the lowest favorability rating in history.

So, while on a very superficial level they may seem the same, there are some much more grown up things to take into consideration.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. this time he is wrong - there is very little comparison between election '16 and '08
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:16 PM
May 2016

first off in '08 we were coming off of a disastrous 8 year Republican reign, that left us holding a ruined economy and 2 wars, IMO there was about as much chance that a Republican would re-claim the WH then as there was in 1976 after Watergate and San Clemency

secondly IMO it's very possible the DNC quietly pressured Hillary to withdraw lest she alienate the Black Democratic voter base with what some might call racist campaigning anyone remember Obama Boyz?

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