decline.

Fair and square? Massive voter purging; abuse of power caught on video at NV state convention; numerous electronic "glitches" favoring Clinton; fake audits when the machine count doesn't match the hand count; Consistent large deviations between exit polls and official counts, where Clinton somehow miraculously consistently outperforms what the exit polls tell us, and yet there are no audits done; massive efforts by the Democratic Party to ruin Bernie's reputation. Don't insult us all about not "losing well". I care a lot more about the loss of our democracy than "losing well".

We see what that's doing with Clinton's negative 19 net favorability ratings and her now running even in head to head competition against Trump -- favorability ratings for both of them that are virtually unheard of for major party nominees.

But the HRC minions just prefer to gloss over that...

And she did not win it fair and square. Besides, it's not over until it's over.

Taking over a convention, making their own new rules, ruling in their favor when it's obvious that the new rules were voted against. Purging delegates at whim. If you think they follow rules your an idiot.

And WTF are you on about?


If Nevada, a few jerky Sanders suported a tried to game the system to pickup a couple of extra delegates. They had already lost the primary. The delegates they hoped to pick up weren't going to make Bernie the winner or make any difference to his losing campaign.


Wherever you get you information, it's all lies and bullshit.

Tell me why you think they did that?

Bernie gamed the system? Clinton delegates didn't show or flipped their vote, and that's gaming the system?

The only explanation that makes sense to me is that the Clinton delegates realized that there was something very wrong with the vote in NV, so they couldn't in good conscience continue to support her. So I would say that Bernie won it.

How can we call our system democratic when we have a poorly informed electorate and a fascist in the lead of a strained two party right leaning election. How are the rest of us going to be heard and represented if things remain status quo or if trump and all the right wing nutters claim everything.

Really Hillary is fine but she is not in a spot where she can stand unblemished against a pure con man.
Sanders has the backing of those who's eyes are wide open to the corruption that has taken our country to this state of Idiocracy.

How many independents (80% of republicans who are ashamed to be republican)would actually switch to Bernie to avoid their distaste of all things Clinton? More than I thought when I started mentioning Sanders in conversations.
Hey, this is not personal. I can see that Hillary would be the only way if not for the crazy FOX viewpoint of our country and the decay that has been cultured since the super rich have forgotten that they are Americans first.

and Sanders would look like.

The Democratic Party has essentially said fuck you to the American people. I don't think that we can afford to let them get away with that, because if we do they will keep on moving in the same direction (to the right) until there is little or no distinction between them and the Republican Party.

If 3 way polling says that Bernie is likely to win (and what else would one expect when we have two candidates around -20 in net favorability ratings and one at +10?), I think he should go with that. Otherwise I see things getting worse for a long time to come before it gets better, or maybe our civilization will collapse and we'll be back in the Dark Ages.

The conclusion is inescapable

It's simply irrefutable

So, whenever they say, "but we can't risk Trump as President."

All we have to do is totally agree. And HILLARY is a risk.

Maybe she's actually been working for Trump this whole time.

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the Democratic Party would rather have a Trump presidency than have Bernie get the nomination.

That being the case, they have a lot of nerve to plead for party unity, especially given their dictatorial methods, massive voter purging, trashing Bernie over what happened at the state convention, and demanding that he apologize for the "violence" that didn't occur there, etc.

Thanks for the thread, Time for change.

Thank goodness...millions of Democratic votes have ensured it won't happen. I am with her.

Did you note the electoral map. Trump wins LA and WV, wow! Not much of a landslide, but I'll be he wins a few other states as well, like MS, AL, AR, SC, TX, and maybe a couple of western states.

campaign contributions from them. So his goal is to represent the people of this country. Those whose campaigns rely on wealthy special interest money are beholding to those special interests. Most people know that. It's a shame that you don't.

is that people believe that bulllshit.

some people are so naive that they actually believe that candidates who take $$$$$$$$$$$$$ from special interests won't pay them back at the expense of everyone else once they get elected. You can't really believe that, do you?

No doubt they would try all that stuff, but it wouldn't stick. They'd make themselves look stupid and desperate.