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pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:25 PM May 2016

Shock Poll: Sanders Ahead of Trump by 15 Points, Hillary Just by 3

A major national poll has some surprising numbers in it.

A shocker. A new NBC News/Wall St Journal poll has Bernie up 54 to 39 over Donald Trump.

Meanwhile, according to the same poll, Hillary Clinton no longer has a double digit lead over Donald Trump like she did just a month ago -- her lead over Trump is just 3 points.


http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-sanders-now-has-double-digit-lead-over-donald-trump-while-hillary-clintons-lead

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Shock Poll: Sanders Ahead of Trump by 15 Points, Hillary Just by 3 (Original Post) pdsimdars May 2016 OP
K & R k8conant May 2016 #1
Shock: National Polls Don't Mean Shit At This Date. onehandle May 2016 #2
Exactly. nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #24
Bingo TwilightZone May 2016 #25
Shock: you whine a lot! Nt Logical May 2016 #33
Not shocking at all n/t MissDeeds May 2016 #3
K&R The closer it gets to convention, the better we will see the true state of the race. nt silvershadow May 2016 #4
June 7th...or the 10th....no later Bernie concedes...book it .He is losing California and Jersey. Demsrule86 May 2016 #18
I think you might be forgeting something pmorlan1 May 2016 #19
Trump is beating Clinton in Polls SouthernDemLinda May 2016 #30
Lol, you people post this every fucking week! Nt Logical May 2016 #34
What's the "shock"? basselope May 2016 #5
She's just not a likeable person... Yurovsky May 2016 #6
I don't even care that she's not likeable, she's a disaster waiting to strike again Joob May 2016 #9
Her support for the rebels aka ISIS was disturbing. JRLeft May 2016 #11
Almost all Clinton supporters would vote for Sanders in the GE. Bleacher Creature May 2016 #7
Then it's clear who should be the nominee AgingAmerican May 2016 #10
Giving in to extortion isn't logical. Bleacher Creature May 2016 #12
Going with the candidate who gets more votes is AgingAmerican May 2016 #13
That's why I support her. Bleacher Creature May 2016 #15
She loses to Trump AgingAmerican May 2016 #17
Because of the Bernie or Bust dead enders, which is where we started. Bleacher Creature May 2016 #20
True that many Bernie supporters may not vote for Hillary, but... JohnnyRingo May 2016 #22
Well boo hoo Demsrule86 May 2016 #14
Links? Or or are you just making up shit. Logical May 2016 #35
It doesn't matter annavictorious May 2016 #8
there is a name for that Demsrule86 May 2016 #16
BSers still posting this same meaningless shit Sheepshank May 2016 #21
Terrible numbers for Clinton: amborin May 2016 #23
Bingo! + 1,000 Land of Enchantment May 2016 #27
No shock. He has been doing better than Hillary vs Trump for months. jillan May 2016 #26
Lots of bad polling here: amborin May 2016 #28
I thought the polls showed Hillary DOWN by 3? NorthCarolina May 2016 #29
I, for one, am not shocked. nt silvershadow May 2016 #31
FYI: vote splitting polls vs a unified party's candidate are meaningless right now TeamPooka May 2016 #32
Yea, that's why everyone looks at them and uses them to predict what's going to happen. pdsimdars May 2016 #36
You're adorable. nt TeamPooka May 2016 #37
Here's the one that fits best. pdsimdars May 2016 #39
Let's see if there's anything behind the smug pdsimdars May 2016 #40
ABCs poll showed a 36 point swing among 18-29s toward Trump icecreamfan May 2016 #38

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
18. June 7th...or the 10th....no later Bernie concedes...book it .He is losing California and Jersey.
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:48 PM
May 2016

Skinner calls it...GD primary is over and the long national nightmare primary is over...on to the White House for Hillary!

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
19. I think you might be forgeting something
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:53 PM
May 2016

On your rush to the WH you may want to appeal to swing voters to actually win that GE and according to NBC those swing voters are Bernie supporters. You know the ones you shit on every day.

http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/poll-voters-have-unfavorable-views-toward-presumptive-party-nominees-690674755503

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
30. Trump is beating Clinton in Polls
Mon May 23, 2016, 11:21 PM
May 2016

Yes, before Demsrule86 decides Hill and Bill are back in the WH they might want to do some research!

A new ABC News/Washington Post poll has Trump beating Hillary. Among the registered voters polled 46 percent for Trump, 44 percent for Clinton.

Fox News pollsters Trump has 45 percent support, while Clinton, trails with 42, putting her just within the poll's margin of error.

In September 2012 the same Fox News pollsters had Obama beat Romney by 5% which is exactly how much he won by.

Donald Trump beats or matches Hillary Clinton in two new polls
New York Daily News?.

Bernie Sanders, in an average of four national polls for the month of May, defeats Trump by 10.8 points.Polls in 2016

HuffPost Model
Our model of the polls suggests Sanders is very likely leading. (In >99% of simulations, Sanders led Trump.)

Polls that tested both Democratic candidates, Sanders ran stronger against Trump in six of them.
Hillary Clinton keeps losing. So how come she's winning?

Is the Democratic Party is run by a bunch of numbnuts!

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
6. She's just not a likeable person...
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:31 PM
May 2016

and the more people see (and hear) her, the lower her numbers go.

I just wish the FBI would recommend an indictment and save us from President Trump.

Joob

(1,065 posts)
9. I don't even care that she's not likeable, she's a disaster waiting to strike again
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:34 PM
May 2016

Her judgement is horrible, she used the State Department as a tool for her Clinton Foundation, where magically people who donated to it ended up with weapon deals. I hate to even imagine what she'd use her Presidency as for her so called "Foundation"

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
7. Almost all Clinton supporters would vote for Sanders in the GE.
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:31 PM
May 2016

The opposite is not true.

That's the difference.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
12. Giving in to extortion isn't logical.
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:41 PM
May 2016

It just encourages more bad behavior, and insults the millions of Americans who voted for Clinton.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
20. Because of the Bernie or Bust dead enders, which is where we started.
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:54 PM
May 2016

And I'm not going around this circle again.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
22. True that many Bernie supporters may not vote for Hillary, but...
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:03 PM
May 2016

...everyone who fears socialism would turn to Trump, and that's a lot more of a deficit.

Trump may be calling Clinton "Crooked Hillary", but "Comrade Bernie" has a better ring.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
14. Well boo hoo
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:45 PM
May 2016

Sander has lost this primary...so thankfully none of us who have come to know and despise him will have to vote for him in the GE.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
8. It doesn't matter
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:34 PM
May 2016

He won't be the nominee based on May poll numbers that are artificially inflated because the electorate hasn't yet been properly introduced to the saintly Senator Sanders.

It's amazing how many progressives want to substitute their judgement for the voice of the voters.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
21. BSers still posting this same meaningless shit
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:57 PM
May 2016

Here just one more time:
Bernie has not been vetted. These numbers always includes Hillary voters that in greater number would vote for Bernie if he wins the GE, where there are far more BOB that would not vote for Hillary in the GE.

BSers just need to stop with these stupid invalid polls.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
26. No shock. He has been doing better than Hillary vs Trump for months.
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:30 PM
May 2016

But Hillaryites and the msm choose to ignore it. November will be interesting.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
29. I thought the polls showed Hillary DOWN by 3?
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:50 PM
May 2016

That's what I think I saw on the teeVee earlier today, but was only half paying attention at the time.

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
32. FYI: vote splitting polls vs a unified party's candidate are meaningless right now
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:30 AM
May 2016

apples to oranges
2 vs 1 = 0

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
36. Yea, that's why everyone looks at them and uses them to predict what's going to happen.
Tue May 24, 2016, 04:46 AM
May 2016

And that's why they are the tool specifically designed to tell us where people are at.

And that's why, if people like you don't pay attention, Hillary will be the nominee and we will lose.
And then you will say,"Who could have seen this coming?" And "It's all Bernie's fault."

When it is really your own fault for hiding your head in the sand and ignoring everything you don't want to acknowledge.


 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
39. Here's the one that fits best.
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:51 PM
May 2016




If it's all you've got, well, that and the smug, I guess that's all you can say.





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pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
40. Let's see if there's anything behind the smug
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:53 PM
May 2016
Answer this if you can. . . ..






or is smug all you've got?

icecreamfan

(115 posts)
38. ABCs poll showed a 36 point swing among 18-29s toward Trump
Tue May 24, 2016, 01:05 PM
May 2016

Clinton lost 19 and Trump gained 17, which left Clinton up only 3% among that demographic. Obama won 18-29s by more than 23 points.

If Clinton can't win by a margin of more than 10% among 18-29s, she has little chance of winning the election.

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