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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:48 PM May 2016

Just on MSNBC: 'Prosecutors skeptical that any charges coming against Terry McAuliffe.'

Just like with the email server investigation, the FBI is just going through the motions.

Sorry, Republicans. No Democrats will be frogmarched, like you fantasize about.

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Just on MSNBC: 'Prosecutors skeptical that any charges coming against Terry McAuliffe.' (Original Post) onehandle May 2016 OP
That's because the rule of law only applies to the little people. ... spin May 2016 #1
And that ain't no spin, spin. That's the truth! nt nc4bo May 2016 #2
You just burp out CT like everday looks like. BootinUp May 2016 #4
I favor a fair and impartial investigation and charges if they are warranted. ... spin May 2016 #10
I don't read that blog. All I will say, is that each case is different, BootinUp May 2016 #11
I'm not in a position to do an in depth investigation of anything. ... spin May 2016 #13
Darn it! BootinUp May 2016 #3
From what I read earlier, McAuliffe and Clinton were convicted already. Hoyt May 2016 #5
Sounds like damage control to me. NWCorona May 2016 #6
Or he's not the ultimate target. Barack_America May 2016 #9
sucker grasswire May 2016 #7
And considering how much Microsoft NBC dislikes him, ... scscholar May 2016 #8
Link? Joe the Revelator May 2016 #12

spin

(17,493 posts)
1. That's because the rule of law only applies to the little people. ...
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:50 PM
May 2016

When someone reaches the highest levels of our government they become immune to the law. In passing that goes for both Republicans and Democrats and is largely the reason our nation is in the mess it is.

spin

(17,493 posts)
10. I favor a fair and impartial investigation and charges if they are warranted. ...
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:13 PM
May 2016

However that should apply to everybody. Is that asking too much?

A good number of people in our nation suspect that the rule of law doesn't apply to those at the highest levels of our government and I tend to agree.


A legal system cannot demand the faith and fealty of the governed when rules are seen as arbitrary and deceptive. Our leaders have led us not to an economic crisis or an immigration crisis or an environmental crisis or a civil liberties crisis. They have led us to a crisis of faith where citizens no longer believe that laws have any determinant meaning. It is politics, not the law, that appears to drive outcomes — a self-destructive trend for a nation supposedly defined by the rule of law.

In each of these areas, the perception is that the law says one thing but actually means different things for different people. It is a dangerous perception, and it is not entirely unfounded. Such double-standards have become common as Congress and presidents seek to avoid unpopular legal problems.(...emphasis added)
– George Washington law professor Jonathan Turley, writing in Tuesday’s USA Today
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/06/15/does-the-rule-of-law-even-exist-in-the-us-anymore/


I underlined Congress and presidents as this problem is not unique to the current administration.

BootinUp

(47,165 posts)
11. I don't read that blog. All I will say, is that each case is different,
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:19 PM
May 2016

I think it is a mistake to draw huge conclusions without huge facts to support it. I suspect you will point to the financial collapse and/or Iraq war as examples?

Said another way: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

spin

(17,493 posts)
13. I'm not in a position to do an in depth investigation of anything. ...
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:31 PM
May 2016

I have to depend on the integrity and honesty of those who do such work. In the last couple of decades I have begun to wonder how well our legal system is functioning and if it has been corrupted.

Of course it might be functioning perfectly but as I said a good number of people in our nation suspect otherwise. Perhaps that's why outsiders like Bernie and even Trump are doing so well against establishment politicians.

75% in U.S. See Widespread Government Corruption
WORLDSEPTEMBER 19, 2015

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Three in four Americans (75%) last year perceived corruption as widespread in the country's government. This figure is up from two in three in 2007 (67%) and 2009 (66%).



While the numbers have fluctuated slightly since 2007, the trend has been largely stable since 2010. However, the percentage of U.S. adults who see corruption as pervasive has never been less than a majority in the past decade, which has had no shortage of controversies from the U.S. Justice Department's firings of U.S. attorneys to the IRS scandal.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/185759/widespread-government-corruption.aspx

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
7. sucker
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:57 PM
May 2016

another ridiculous bit of disinformation, and you fell for it.

Prosecutors don't speculate to the press. They don't talk.

The FBI wanted the Clintons to know that their crony (who might know something incriminating) is under investigation. That's all this is.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
8. And considering how much Microsoft NBC dislikes him, ...
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:07 PM
May 2016

that sounds like a solid bit of information if they're defending him.

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