2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIMO there should be one more debate -- seated, with no audience, on PBS and hosted by Jim Leher
I believe anotehr shoulting match that is amped up by the Corporate Media as Reality TV/WWE grudge Match would not serve any purpose.
However, an old fashioned debate/discussion in a studio, with a host who is merely facilitating a conversation of issues and their differences WOULD be a good clarifying thing, as the campaign moves into the home stretch.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Can't have that. Just have to focus on how cranky Bernie can be as a person......The future of the country makes no difference as long as the Clintons (TM) are allowed to bring their stale brand of the 90's back to the WH with no questions asked.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... privileged and not talking to the issues of the dem base with the same vigor as he does the privieged.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)It's a debate the democratic Party ought to be having. Elections are when parties define themselves.
You want a party owned by Goldman Sachs, wal mart and the whole Corporatocracy that has been major backlers of the Clintons throughout their careers?
Fine. Your prerogative.
But some of us think we should be trying to break away from that.
Just telling at least 40 percent of the primary voters to sit down and shut up isn;t going to reinvigorate the Democratic party -- and it is badly in need of ingratiating, if you hadn''t noticed.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)I don't want a party owned by people who think it's the 1960s and whole demographics issues will be back paged to the point of a side note.
No one is telling 40% of anyone to do anything except to stop whining
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)A discussion of issues and different visions of what the Democratic Party shold be about is kinda what the political process is supposed to be about.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)If the runner ups of the respective parties want to have a televised debate he should debate Ted Cruz.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Personally, that's going to get real old real fast. I don't know why there is this desire to prolong that awful campaign.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Sancho
(9,070 posts)This primary is over.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Just put on our nice shiny Clinton T-Shirts (made in China and supplied by Wal Mart) and go rah-rah-rah...go team go.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Your mind is already sealed. shit on the matter, so it's not worth taking the time to try and point out where there is MUCH more involved than whether Clinton is a "poopy head."
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)...the same system the long shot black guy won with in 08
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Point is to get someone who doesn't see their role as cracking the whip to rile up the lions, but to foster an actual discussion and debate instead.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)on why Democratic candidates are better than the GOPers.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)and bernie has made that abundantly clear.
This is a primary, and the question is HOW should the Democrats be better than the GOP.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)podium debates. I think it will make our side look better able to handle the issues we face. Good point.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)But the Clintons would say he's too "radical"
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)I wish we had seen better-formatted and better-moderated debates earlier in the primary cycle, but it's done now. At this point it's not about anything but Bernie's pride and desire of his supporters to get a few more licks in before the bell.
It's done. Time to move on.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)a debate. I have seen nothing to indicate whether she already agreed upon one or not, but at this stage in the game no frontrunner would bother debating the loser or losers.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)with Progressives. Do you consider yourself a Progressive?
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/02/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-debates-michigan-california-218691
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)It would likely be the most thoughtful, interesting debate this year.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)If Bernie had a better attitude, Hillary might have accepted.
But because Bernie acted like a spoiled child, he gets no more debates.
Period.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,196 posts)ground from Trump. He seems to say something ridiculous on a daily basis.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)have been deeply overlooked this campaign season.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)The networks have turned it into a commercial entertainment spectacle. Makes everyone look bad.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)was going for angry soundbites at least part of the time.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)It's too bad there aren't more around these days.,