2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHey Democrats: A Vote for Hillary Clinton Is Actually a Vote for Donald Trump
(ANTIMEDIA) San Diego, CA With California finally mattering in an election season, it might be the final state primary before the Democratic race for president is set in stone. Regardless, recent developments have made one thing astoundingly clear: Donald Trump will almost surely defeat Hillary Clinton in a head to head matchup and thats why a vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote for Donald Trump.
It may seem crazy to many, but Donald Trump is now leading for the first time in an average of national polls pitting the presumptive Republican nominee against Hillary Clinton. These results come at a time when Trump hasnt even started aggressively attacking her yet; after all, he just finished fending off over a dozen Republican primary challengers a feat thought all but impossible by political experts the world over.
Trump is rising and Hillary is sinking, but this is not a new phenomenon for Clinton shes been sinking ever since she joined the race for the presidency. Operating almost exclusively on name recognition and gender identity alone, Clinton has seen her enormous lead in the polls over Bernie Sanders evaporate in the last several months, with some national polls even placing his popularity ahead of hers.
This should not be all that surprising in hindsight, with an unknown democratic socialist meteorically rising to catch one of the most well-known names in modern American politics. America is fed up with status-quo politics and Clinton embodies this bad taste, which is now in a majority of Americans mouths. But Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump dont. The all-but-guaranteed Clinton presidency now faces a fight from Bernie Sanders all the way to the Democratic convention.
Clinton, like Trump, faces a major favorability problem. Well over half of Americans view her unfavorably, and her honesty and likeability ratings are close to record lows. Shes got an ongoing FBI problem (read: email scandal). Trump is running to the left of her on foreign policy, trade, and economy and to the right of her on immigration. These are all issues that are resonating well for Trump and lackluster for Clinton, who has taken flack for everything from her cozy ties to Wall Street and support of NAFTA to the 1994 crime bill she helped Bill Clinton pass when he was in office.
Trump has only been the presumptive nominee for a few weeks, but hes already overtaken Hillary in the national polls. Considering her utter lack of momentum and enthusiasm, it doesnt take a political scientist to understand this equation looks like a sure defeat for Hillary Clinton.
Even so, experts are weighing in and many of them are reaching the same conclusion presented here: if Democrats vote for Clinton, they are essentially voting for a Trump presidency. The only effective Democratic challenge to Trump is from Bernie Sanders, who has continuously polled double digits ahead of Trump in a head to head matchup. Democratic superdelegates may want to take note of this reality or face a sure defeat to the Donald in November.
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Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)A vote for candidate x, is a vote for candidate x, not candidate y or z.
HRC supporters annoy me with this shit, let's not join them please.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It's so stupid it Bernz.
Additionally, the site attempted to infect my computer with a virus. Here is to strong anti-virus software.
cali
(114,904 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Im excited to see BernieScience, about women's healthcare and their link to orgasms.
Hilarious coming from the Bernie Or Bust crowd.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Well, CA, MT, NJ, ND, SD, and DC.
If they fail, it's President Dump!
B Calm
(28,762 posts)TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)There is no factual basis for this assertion. None.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)And after insulting both Sen. Boxer and Sen. Feinstein...your chances are not good...certainly not for the 80 point blowout you would need. I think Hillary wins California, Jersey and a couple others...she goes to the White House...Bernie goes back to the Senate if they will have him.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Bernie impressed a lot of people with his run and got far more votes than anyone would have ever imagined he could have.
Whenever a primary is ending there is a tendency to pile it on the losing side by describing them as having been disgraced. Hillary haters did it to her eight years ago. Then she got a hero's welcome back to the Senate and they had to stop since stubborn facts were getting in their way. After she spoke in prime time at the convention, and then hit the campaign trail for him, they looked downright silly.
A few of them couldn't let it go. Richard Wolfe of MSNBC made a fool out of himself by claiming in a book that Obama made Hillary S.O.S. because her fellow senators were mad at her for her conduct in the 2008 race and they wanted her gone. In actuality when your peers are mad at you they want to deny a top cabinet job, not give you one.
Let's not treat Bernie that way. Let's celebrate his contributions and ask him to do everything possible to help elect Hillary Clinton as president.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)course, a truthier OP would mention how much of a rigged game a Trump vs Hillary contest really is.
The two families are friends, and I am sure they have some bet going like, "If Hill loses, you give her a 100 million bucks, but if I lose, you give me the same."
And maybe Donald would like to be the Secretary of State as well. That seems to be where some serious currency is.