2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFrank Schaeffer: "1 Not-So-Simple Pretty Funny Question for the 73% of White Evangelicals
Who Will Apparently Be Voting for Mitt Romney"
http://www.alternet.org/election-2012/1-not-so-simple-pretty-funny-question-73-white-evangelicals-who-will-apparently-be
If the polls are correct heres the question I'd like to ask evangelicals using their own style of language/concerns/theological thinking as applied to their choice:
Whats the explanation for the fact that white American Evangelicals made the allegedly philandering lying ignorant braggart lapsed Roman Catholic Dinesh D'Souza their anti-Obama hero, embrace a pro-choice Mormon bishop who promoted abortion and Planned Parenthood in MA, are working to elect a job-destroying tax-avoiding lying flip-flopping-tell-anyone-anything-they-want-to-hear Swiss bank account collecting draft dodger running with a disciple of the God-hating, Jesus-mocking hater-of-the-poor Ayn Rand, for their presidential candidate and look the other way as a crazed ultra-Zionist many Israeli Jews fear billionaire casino owner who is being investigated for allegedly making billions off the dirtiest Chinese gambling Communist Party-controlled outfit in the world funds the enterprise, at the very same time as Franklin Graham sold his ailing father Billys soul and denied core evangelical theology by taking Mormonism off the Billy Graham organizations list of cults in order to help the Mormon pagan-ritual-performing, Trinity-denying, casino-money-grubbing billionaire-coddling, earth-destroying global-warming denying Mormon bishop win respectability for his dead-Jews-baptizing-polygamy-rooted-reality-denying-interplanetary Masonic lodge-embracing faith in an election against an exemplary modest faithful husband good father compassionate smart black evangelical Christian President whose major accomplishments include saving the economy, ending a war, killing our greatest enemy, giving health care to children and the poor and the "least of these" and who has tried to reduce the number of abortions by helping women escape poverty in a reenactment of the lesson of the parable of the Good Samaritan?
Go figure.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)Frank has a link for almost every phrase/word in his rant. Something tells me he had a great time writing this....always had a way with words.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)caraher
(6,279 posts)Obama is "evangelical?" Did it rub off on him when he hung out with Rick Warren or something?
Otherwise... what he said.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)caraher
(6,279 posts)Jimmy Carter largely introduced it to the world.
But I've not seen anything before that suggested Obama's brand of Christianity is "evangelical." Though apparently those who are interested in speculating on his views seem to think he's moved in that direction...
Cha
(297,652 posts)to the link..I'm not interested in that.
caraher
(6,279 posts)That was just the one place I saw that clearly used the frame of "evangelical Christianity" in discussing Obama's religion.
In the end, I just care about what he does as president.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)acknowledge, that we will, building on this affirmation of "who we are" and "whose we are," call men, women, boys and girls to the liberating love of Jesus Christ, inviting them to become a part of the church universal, responding to Jesus command that we go into all the world and make disciples!
http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Thanks for the article, will share it.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)At one time, the Christian Evangelical church argued that life began, as it says in the bible, with a babies' first breath. In fact there is much more evidence in the bible for the "breath of life" or the first breath to be the moment when the soul goes into the body than there is in the bible for the moment of conception to be the beginning of life.
I think Evangelicals need to go back and read the real bible, and not the RepubliCON bible.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)At churches I went to long ago, Israel was more of an ideal and not a geographic area, wars were for the government to decide, and secular authority was not questioned. Religion was private and in the family, not at school or work.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Has Jesus say all must tell the good news to the world
Cha
(297,652 posts)http://www.thefreedictionary.com/evangelical
Cha
(297,652 posts)had a clue!
Thank you, Iwillnevergiveup
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)trusty elf
(7,401 posts)who is apparently going to vote for Willard.
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Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)nxylas
(6,440 posts)Otherwise, great rant.
inamatteroftime
(135 posts)associated with attending church. Some very disturbed, frustrated, mean individuals hide behind going to church. They talk it but can't walk it.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)This has led many to defend Capitalism but they still claim greed is a sin.
It's caused a major conflict in their thinking.
Keep in mind that these people didn't vote. They were more interested in doing good works and helping the poor and the downtrodden and lifting people's spirits. Being gentle and kind and full of mercy and charity. They were all about spiritual enlightenment and being seen as angels among us.
Then the Republicans infiltrated their churches.
Now they have a long list of things they hate.
world wide wally
(21,754 posts)libmom74
(633 posts)Because he is white.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... the other guy is black. Otherwise they'd have nothing to do with Rmoney.
AmandaInAustin
(13 posts)"Auto Industry Attack ad from Romney campaign hits new low. GM calls latest Romney auto ad Politics at its cynical worst Plus: Romney Has Refused to Speak to the Press for the Last 3 Weeks about his views on FEMA OR to be accountable for his advertising (11/2/12)
*Please Repost via the Share button below
onto your Facebook wall! Share w/groups too!
**Article Below About Romneys 3 Week Refusal to Talk to the Press:
Mitt to press: Talk to the hand: Here in the waning days of the campaign, Mitt Romney has a message for the press: Talk to the hand.
For those keeping score at home, today marks three weeks since Mitt Romney last took a question from a reporter, Garrett Haake of NBC News tweeted Wednesday.
Romneys silence flared as an issue a day earlier when, at a campaign-rally-turned-Sandy-relief-event, he refused to answer reporters questions about his stance on FEMA. At a Republican primary debate, hed appeared to suggest scrapping the federal agency. (His campaign released a statement Wednesday, almost two days after Sandy struck, saying hed keep FEMA after all.)
But thats hardly the only issue that Mitt has stayed mum on lately. As Ed Schultz noted Wednesday night, Romney has refused to give specifics on his budget and tax plan; declined to say where he stands on nuclear talks with Iran; avoided commenting on Indiana GOP Senate hopeful Richard Murdochs controversial rape remarks; and dodged taking a stance on the Lilly Ledbetter Act helping women fight pay discrimination. Romney even has refused to go on Nickelodeon to talk to schoolkids.
It comes down to who do you trust, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who chairs the DNC, told Ed.
Romney has either been blatantly dishonest, she said, or refused to answer where he is. And President Obama has consistently been there.
*From The Ed Show blog, linked at: http://tv.msnbc.com/shows/the-ed-show/ by Zachary Roth 10/31/2012
*See the Clip of the Deceptive Ad & Discussion on The Ed Show at:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101774578
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)BootinUp
(47,186 posts)lexx21
(321 posts)don't be afraid to hold anything back. You are among friends here.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)when Schaeffer wrote a guest editorial for BradBlog entitled, "Will the Right Turn (More) Violent?"
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"With the Senate having now passed the final reconciliation changes to the health care reform bill, the Republicans from their 'Tea Party' wing to their high priest of hallucinatory fantasy, Glen Beck, are about to pay a historic price for the biggest miscalculation in American political history since Charles Lindbergh sided with the Germans."
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http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7766#more-7766