2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCan anyone explain what is going on in WA state? This is on
MSNBC right now being discussed by Tweety and Kornacki? Very confusing. Tks.
MattP
(3,304 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)It doesn't allocate delegates but it's one of the questions on the ballot; in the nature of these things it will have much higher turnout than a caucus.
Mike__M
(1,052 posts)amounted to 28% voter turnout, both parties.
Pretty pathetic. The presidential primary was the only thing on my precinct's ballot.
I suspect most voters have heard that the contests are over:
Republicans knew they didn't have a choice; Democrats knew it didn't matter.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)By law there is a promary in May and it was held today.
Hillary is winning it but will get no delegates.
http://results.vote.wa.gov/results/current/President-Democratic-Party.html
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)screen. Bernie in blue box with Bernie winning 73%, but then Kornacki writing over that with Bernie 49% and Hillary 51%.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Probably more than "a bit".
This doesn't impact the delegates, but it is a bark to the shin of Sanders's campaign right before California.
The vote that mattered in Washington was in the caucus in March. Bernie won handily. On the day when it counted, Bernie had an overwhelming victory. Today is just more obvious proof of the MSM bias and the desperate spin being deployed to prop up an extraordinarily flawed candidate in Clinton.
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JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)They hold a caucus that chooses all pledged delegates.
Weeks later, during a primary election for various offices, they throw in a presidential preference poll that doesn't choose anything and was not contested.
An absurd set-up. As is generally the case.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Also must be why news has switched back over to all Trump. Good lord this is tiresom and to think we have 6 more months to go,...... .
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The primary today is not "an election for various offices" with a "presidential preference poll" thrown in.
It is exclusively a presidential primary.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)What is the point of this exercise? Everyone, come vote in a pretend election that doesn't count for anything?
They should have one or the other, do you agree?
joshcryer
(62,287 posts)And they require a few hours minimum commitment to get done.
Mail in ballots are super damn freaking easy, you fill them out at any time, you can ruminate on the options for a week if you want to, and send it out.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)What's the point of what WA does, however? Caucus to decide, then a beauty pageant that doesn't count? It's a nutso setup.
joshcryer
(62,287 posts)Doesn't hurt to add "presidential option" at the top.
My guess is they prefer caucuses for the perceived democratic nature. They feel quite democratic, until you realize that most people can't go to them and they're exclusionary.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)36% of Oregon residents voted in the primary. We didn't have a caucus.
28% of Washington residents voted in their primary. But they had a caucus in March.
They just didn't bother to vote in the Washington primary, because the caucus had already determined the delegate assignment.
It doesn't mean that more Washington Residents wanted Hillary. Many of the older residents (who tend to vote for Hillary) didn't go to the caucuses...the younger ones did and they went for Bernie.
If they only had a primary, I think Bernie would still have taken Washington (maybe not with as high a percentage as he did). The vote was very close in the primary...not in the caucus.
joshcryer
(62,287 posts)Which is why I think the crooning about Clinton winning WA is silly. If this was an actual contest I am sure that it would've gone differently.