The Nevada convention pretty much proves you wrong if you believe it was rigged.

Hillary won the caucus. Bernie had more people show up at the county caucus. Hillary had more people show up at the state caucus because Bernie's people were discredited by the credentials committee.

How many working people can take off for hours

Luckily they were stopped.

I'm really enjoying this.

Follow the Bernie math ... and you'll see the light

'Cause voter intimidation is rampant in a caucus.

Sid

If they don't know who is backing their opponent they won't know who to steal from or change party affiliations.

Much easier to steal a caucus. In fact, they are a complete mess in every respect. People leaving, coming back, not realizing they can revote if their candidate is not viable. All sorts of shenanigans going on. Look at the video from caucus locations in Iowa.

But yeah, there needs to be like automatic pay on election day or something, for a state.


There should be a law passed (at least for caucus states)
where you would be able to bring proof that you voted (not who you voted for)
and afterwards you get paid regularly for the day.

This would also encourage more people to vote.

I know people get all weird about other people knowing who you vote for but that kind of thinking will never progress any nation if you can't even discuss nominating a certain candidate.

That being said, there should also be a law that let's people vote without having to stick around for the discussion of choosing delegates. ...Which would have been people they met. But whatever. The votes will still help choose who the delegate represents.

It's far easier for those few people in charge of counting and collecting "votes" to cheat.

Also, caucuses disenfranchise voters who can't afford to spend hours (like myself) to determine a simple primary vote.

You're just plain wrong.

time consuming, intimidating even because of no secret ballot, and therefore undemocratic because of all of the above.

They may be fine for small towns in Iowa but for major metro areas, forget it.

Take Las Vegas, who has time to spend 3-4 hours on election day, then another several hours on a different day at the county convention, and finally more hours on a yet another day at the state convention just to decide the vote and delegate tallies?

People work, go to school, take care of family. That all needs to get done in one day with a primary where people can vote on their own schedule, and be done with it.

And if you've ever caucused like I have, you know there is a head count done after the crowd is divided into candidate groups and the time spent trying to persuade people to switch groups. That head count and it's accurate reporting is where the vote count can easily be . . . ahhh, under or over reported for each candidate.

Cheating can easily happen there, and then you have the other two days to try to steal votes, as was done in Vegas by the Sanders people at the county convention. They were thwarted however at the state convention and delegates restored to the Clinton camp who won them on election day. Justice was done, vote theft stopped.

Your posts continuously defy logic.

They're opaque, much lower-turnout, exclusionary, and need to go.