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Bernie is demanding a recanvass in Kentucky over ONE delegate ... (Original Post) salinsky May 2016 OP
He doesn't have an issue wasting others money, if it strokes his ego. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #1
I'm losing respect for him by the second at this point ... nt salinsky May 2016 #6
LOL! #HillaryLostMe. merrily May 2016 #9
Third party outliers are no loss ... nt salinsky May 2016 #10
Really? Got a link that supports your applying your third party BS to me? merrily May 2016 #14
Jill Stein and Gary Johnson don't light your fire? ... salinsky May 2016 #20
You not only have no link that supports your applying your third bs to me, but you have more bs. merrily May 2016 #25
You want a link and an apology for my low opinion of you?? ... salinsky May 2016 #33
I pointed out that you provided neither link to support your bs claim about me merrily May 2016 #38
I'm a lifelong Democrat, RiverNoord May 2016 #78
Dude, you don't respect him. Why the charade? Also, the person in your avatar leans SBS. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #35
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #2
It's not a recount Renew Deal May 2016 #3
Recount ... recanvass ... whatever ... salinsky May 2016 #8
Has to find ways to get media attention nt firebrand80 May 2016 #4
He's waging a PR battle against the DNC and Democratic election officials ... salinsky May 2016 #28
the 4000 vote wipe happened when they were reporting... Jack Bone May 2016 #84
When was the last time you checked? frylock May 2016 #93
It's a publicly stunt from a campaign short on cash. sufrommich May 2016 #5
Par for the course, if he turned his negative attention into positive attention Thinkingabout May 2016 #7
Sigh... once again you confuse PROCESS with OUTCOME. It is to ensure good process. flor-de-jasmim May 2016 #11
He's certainly at the forefront of a movement that is unafraid ... salinsky May 2016 #15
Don't confuse purity with TRANSPARENCY. flor-de-jasmim May 2016 #30
This recanvassing will change nothing in the race, but you're right ... salinsky May 2016 #34
And there we have it. Anybody who wants an accurate vote count is a jackass. lagomorph777 May 2016 #89
There used to be a time here when people demanded accuracy in vote counting. frylock May 2016 #92
He chose a recanvass instead of a recount because he would have to pay for a recount brush May 2016 #69
It's so he can cry, "RIGGED!!!" BeyondGeography May 2016 #12
This.nt sufrommich May 2016 #13
Holy crap!!! His supporters didn't show up to something that was meaningless??? Matt_in_STL May 2016 #18
Obama's managed to in 2008 BeyondGeography May 2016 #37
Perhaps Sanders supporters had something better to do than show up to a beauty contest Matt_in_STL May 2016 #39
It is a mail in ballot. His supporters didn't need to show up. LisaM May 2016 #79
Meaningless? At this point, with him wanting SDs to pick him? When he needs MOMENTUM so badly? lunamagica May 2016 #96
The goal of the primary is to win delegates, which he already did in Washington Matt_in_STL May 2016 #97
A recount! How awful! Bernie is the first politician in HISTORY to ask for a recount... Armstead May 2016 #16
Recounts are usually asked for in winner take all elections. sufrommich May 2016 #22
They are going to split the delegates regardless of what the recanvassing shows ... salinsky May 2016 #23
I don't give a damn what your opinion of him as a person is Armstead May 2016 #27
Clinton at least had a chance in 2008 metroins May 2016 #41
That was not the belief at the time Armstead May 2016 #56
Reporters need to confront him on his petty grandstanding. oasis May 2016 #17
It's called politics Armstead May 2016 #31
There are no odds or influence metroins May 2016 #42
It's his money. tazkcmo May 2016 #55
No, it's not about Sanders' donation money. The state has to pay for a recanvass . . . brush May 2016 #72
You sound worried they might uncover more shenanigans! B Calm May 2016 #19
The recanvassing is not going to uncover anything ... salinsky May 2016 #24
You need a sweat rag. B Calm May 2016 #29
Or two. bahrbearian May 2016 #40
Hillary supporters, circa 2000. Matt_in_STL May 2016 #21
Hillary Now 2016 bahrbearian May 2016 #44
Gore had a chance metroins May 2016 #45
It doesn't matter, it's about integrity. Why is this so hard to understand? pinebox May 2016 #47
The actual word, "integrity" Matt_in_STL May 2016 #49
I suspected as much pinebox May 2016 #54
Because these results don't matter metroins May 2016 #52
Hillary cannot close this without superdelegates Melissa G May 2016 #58
I'm all for debates metroins May 2016 #62
I am glad you also are for Debates. Melissa G May 2016 #63
Link? mcar May 2016 #46
Oh, I am sure if you do a quick Google search it will show up. Matt_in_STL May 2016 #50
Your OP title is disingenuous.. (at best) disillusioned73 May 2016 #26
Actually, it wasn't disingenuous, it was a mistake on my part ... salinsky May 2016 #32
Every delegate is important. I'm sure both Clinton & Sanders want fair voter counts?. Sunlei May 2016 #36
Another pure publicity stunt to keep himself in the news. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #43
It's about integrity. pinebox May 2016 #48
Hillary should say, "Give the crybaby milksop another delegate ... salinsky May 2016 #51
Oh you want to go with that? OK how about this. pinebox May 2016 #53
Yes, she should do that. frylock May 2016 #95
Why didn't he ask for this the next day sufrommich May 2016 #57
Because it's about integrity. frylock May 2016 #94
It's not about one delegate. Scuba May 2016 #59
Desperation. That's all it is. MineralMan May 2016 #60
fundraising. Check the fundraising emails. N t msanthrope May 2016 #61
Anyone can only request a recount if the margin is narrow. That's how it goes. hellofromreddit May 2016 #64
As I was properly corrected, he's not asking for a recount, he's asking for a ... salinsky May 2016 #74
What a bastard for attempting to keep things honest bvf May 2016 #65
Curious. Is there any rules for automatic recount? floppyboo May 2016 #66
Funny username for a Hillary supporter. brentspeak May 2016 #67
isnt it? reddread May 2016 #70
It's a feeble attempt at misdirection I think hobbit709 May 2016 #71
It's simply a carryover from other political forums on which I participate ... salinsky May 2016 #77
cry baby post! Cobalt Violet May 2016 #68
I think it has more to do with checking vote integrity, than 1 delegate. glowing May 2016 #73
What is your problem with election integrity? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #75
Stop with the "integrity" BS already ... salinsky May 2016 #80
It was not BS in 2000, it is not BS now nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #83
Good for him, I'm glad. But it's just the tip of the rot pile. nt. polly7 May 2016 #76
Yes. trudyco May 2016 #86
They learned their Brock and DNC daily memes well. And included a double polly7 May 2016 #87
He has every right to request a recanvass. One of the 99 May 2016 #81
Of course, he has the right, and no one suggested otherwise ... salinsky May 2016 #88
How does this damage the party or help Trump? One of the 99 May 2016 #101
Until we shine a light on our various primary and caucus processes... Orsino May 2016 #82
It's a matter of how many states each candidate won. Zen Democrat May 2016 #85
So "U Hafta Fallow Da Rooooolz" only applies when Hillary is winning TheSarcastinator May 2016 #90
She's still winning ... nt salinsky May 2016 #91
You see, this is why an education in the classics is so very important! TheSarcastinator May 2016 #100
Why not just admit that Bernie Sanders gaining an extra delegate isn't the problem bjo59 May 2016 #98
It's not the delegate, it's what gets revealed in the recount. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #99

merrily

(45,251 posts)
14. Really? Got a link that supports your applying your third party BS to me?
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:17 AM
May 2016

Meanwhile, your trying to sell that you lost respect for Bernie is good for laughs. Thanks. I appreciate it.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
25. You not only have no link that supports your applying your third bs to me, but you have more bs.
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:30 AM
May 2016

And not enough grace to apologize.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
38. I pointed out that you provided neither link to support your bs claim about me
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:47 AM
May 2016

nor the grace to apologize, many would do when caught bsing with no support.

I could not possibly care less whether you provide a link or an apology. Your inability or failure to do either says something about you, nothing about me.

But you really do remind me so much of my cousin! More and more every time I see another of your posts.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
78. I'm a lifelong Democrat,
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:10 AM
May 2016

have voted exclusively for Democrats since I was of age to vote, am now 45 years old, and I support Sanders.

Do have a low opinion of me as well, based solely on that information?

Response to salinsky (Original post)

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
28. He's waging a PR battle against the DNC and Democratic election officials ...
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:31 AM
May 2016

who have more votes than he'd win even if he won Kentucky and it was winner-take-all.

He wants to sway super delegates by attacking their integrity and causing people to harass them.

This is way beyond silly.

Jack Bone

(2,023 posts)
84. the 4000 vote wipe happened when they were reporting...
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:20 AM
May 2016

which is what this canvas should highlight, if it actually happened.

If there were no grounds for suspicion, I doubt that it would be happening.

Last time I checked, Democrats believed in ensuring that the votes are counted.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. Par for the course, if he turned his negative attention into positive attention
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:11 AM
May 2016

He would have been a better candidate, screaming and complaining every time he loses says a lot. Hey Bernie, the major of the voters are voting for Hillary, We the people, listen to the voters.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
15. He's certainly at the forefront of a movement that is unafraid ...
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:18 AM
May 2016

of appearing asinine and juvenile in its pursuit of purity.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
34. This recanvassing will change nothing in the race, but you're right ...
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:37 AM
May 2016

... "purity" was the wrong term.

"Jackassery" is more appropriate.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
89. And there we have it. Anybody who wants an accurate vote count is a jackass.
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:45 AM
May 2016

Straight from the Bush campaign. Brilliant.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
92. There used to be a time here when people demanded accuracy in vote counting.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:07 PM
May 2016

You folks are on your own when the irregularities bite your candidate's ass in November.

brush

(53,801 posts)
69. He chose a recanvass instead of a recount because he would have to pay for a recount
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:20 AM
May 2016

We're not confused.

The state has to foot the bill for a recanvass — all over 1 delegate.

Wonder how the people of Kentucky feel about that.

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
12. It's so he can cry, "RIGGED!!!"
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:15 AM
May 2016

Meantime, he loses a primary in WA where three times as many people showed up than at the caucus which he won 73-27, following a similar result in Nebraska. The system ain't all that bad for Bernie.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
18. Holy crap!!! His supporters didn't show up to something that was meaningless???
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:19 AM
May 2016

Oh no, that just won't do. That just won't do at all! Someone, please find me some pearls to clutch and walk me over to the fainting couch.

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
37. Obama's managed to in 2008
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:46 AM
May 2016

He won the beauty contest by six points. Maybe they were better organized, or more motivated to vote in general, or he was a better candidate, or something.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
39. Perhaps Sanders supporters had something better to do than show up to a beauty contest
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:48 AM
May 2016

They showed when it meant something while Clinton supporters didn't. I guess they were just better organized in Washington when it actually meant something.

LisaM

(27,815 posts)
79. It is a mail in ballot. His supporters didn't need to show up.
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:11 AM
May 2016

The caucus was a different matter. It was held on a holiday weekend and most of the Hillary supporters I know didn't want to be part of the bullying atmosphere.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
96. Meaningless? At this point, with him wanting SDs to pick him? When he needs MOMENTUM so badly?
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:15 PM
May 2016

You know, the optics here don't look good for him, not good AT ALL

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
97. The goal of the primary is to win delegates, which he already did in Washington
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:19 PM
May 2016

There was no need for him to go back and re-campaign and put forth a GOTV campaign to make sure everyone voted in a primary that had no meaning in the primary. I would be pissed if he had and had wasted money on a beauty contest. Hillary supporters are fond of saying it doesn't matter who shows up at rallies, it matters who shows up to vote when it counts. The caucus counted and Bernie supporters showed up. The primary was meaningless.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
16. A recount! How awful! Bernie is the first politician in HISTORY to ask for a recount...
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:19 AM
May 2016

What a horrible man asking for a procedure that is used in elections with a close vote total.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
22. Recounts are usually asked for in winner take all elections.
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:23 AM
May 2016

When is the last time you saw a demand for a recount in a primary where delegates are apportioned by number of votes?

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
23. They are going to split the delegates regardless of what the recanvassing shows ...
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:23 AM
May 2016

... this is not going to move the football for him.

He's knows this.

He's not a stupid man.

Just a very petty and vindictive one.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
27. I don't give a damn what your opinion of him as a person is
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:31 AM
May 2016

You are clearly just pushing the meme that because he is following through on his promise to run a hard fought campaign throughout the primary he is being petty and vindictive.

But it was fine for Clinton to run a hard fought campaign to the end in 2008.

Whatttteeeevvvvveeerrrrrrr......



 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
56. That was not the belief at the time
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:12 AM
May 2016

The numbers may be different, but the same pressures and beliefs that she had no chance were accepted at that time.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
31. It's called politics
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:34 AM
May 2016

People other than Clinton are also allowed to engaged in politics.

You can be danged sure if the situation were reversed, her campaign would be all over every state looking for every way to up her odds -- or at least be able to transform a state from, a loss to a win for influence.

brush

(53,801 posts)
72. No, it's not about Sanders' donation money. The state has to pay for a recanvass . . .
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:28 AM
May 2016

which is why he chose that instead of a recount.

Candidates have to pay for a recount.

This move doesn't reflect well on Sanders — especially since it's only about a 1 delegate swing.

Guess that $27 spigot of donations is running dry.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
24. The recanvassing is not going to uncover anything ...
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:25 AM
May 2016

... it's just going to cost Kentucky taxpayers.

The Bernie campaign and its supporters should be ashamed.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
21. Hillary supporters, circa 2000.
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:21 AM
May 2016

"Just get over it Al Gore, you lost. Quit trying to contest Florida. George Bush was the obvious winner and you are just grandstanding."

Can't wait to hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth in November when questionable votes hit home.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
45. Gore had a chance
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:53 AM
May 2016

Bernie lost back in March.

It's one thing to fight when it matters, it's another thing to waste time and money on processes that don't matter.

This would change nothing.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
52. Because these results don't matter
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:07 AM
May 2016

It's a waste of other people's time and money.

If you're going to spend money and effort, spend it on something that will make a difference.

Melissa G

(10,170 posts)
58. Hillary cannot close this without superdelegates
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:39 AM
May 2016

Same as Bernie. Game is still in play and Hillary has Plunging numbers against Trump.

Rather than being a better candidate and honoring her agreement to Debate in CA, she and her campaign just handwring that Bernie won't drop out when he has plenty of support to keep running.

The campaign is still in play and Hillary Runs from a Debate. "You should be willing to Debate Anytime, Anywhere..."
Oh, Except in California 2016!


metroins

(2,550 posts)
62. I'm all for debates
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:45 AM
May 2016

Especially real debates, not 1 minute responses for sound bites.

But the race is over.

I will die one day, is an equivocal absolute that Hillary will be the Democratic nominee this season. The Supers are not changing, it is reality.

Melissa G

(10,170 posts)
63. I am glad you also are for Debates.
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:51 AM
May 2016

You might suggest it to your candidate.

There is many a slip twixt the cup and the lip.

Your equivocal absolute is imaginary. You will and she might.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
26. Your OP title is disingenuous.. (at best)
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:30 AM
May 2016

this is straight from the article YOU posted;

"A recanvass is not a recount but a review of the voting totals."

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
32. Actually, it wasn't disingenuous, it was a mistake on my part ...
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:34 AM
May 2016

... and, it doesn't make this any less of a jackass move on Bernie's behalf.

I corrected the title.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
36. Every delegate is important. I'm sure both Clinton & Sanders want fair voter counts?.
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:39 AM
May 2016

If Kentucky and other 'old school' states can't complete the primary counts correctly, they will FUBAR the General Election even worse.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
43. Another pure publicity stunt to keep himself in the news.
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:52 AM
May 2016

The media is losing interest and he has very little money to pump up his persona with ads.

In your own words:

"WHAT A JACKASS MOVE."
But, hardly surprising, given his track record.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
51. Hillary should say, "Give the crybaby milksop another delegate ...
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:07 AM
May 2016

... and save the Kentucky taxpayers some money."

That would be some righteous integrity.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
53. Oh you want to go with that? OK how about this.
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:09 AM
May 2016

Giving back money to taxpayers who had to pay for closed primaries which they can't vote in.
Want to take an educated guess which has a higher amount?

Sorry but elections MUST have integrity. Period. This is vital.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
57. Why didn't he ask for this the next day
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:15 AM
May 2016

after the election if it's about integrity?

This is a publicity stunt and nothing more.

MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
60. Desperation. That's all it is.
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:42 AM
May 2016

One delegate? If the recanvass indicates it, which it probably won't. One delegate. A waste of Kentucky taxpayer dollars, it seems to me. Sour grapes, too, it seems to me. It doesn't matter, so why bother?

 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
64. Anyone can only request a recount if the margin is narrow. That's how it goes.
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:51 AM
May 2016

Soooo, what's your point? Obviously, there's not much need for a recount if the margin is wide. You're effectively arguing that anyone who ever requests a recount is an asshole.

Gore seems like an alright guy.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
74. As I was properly corrected, he's not asking for a recount, he's asking for a ...
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:04 AM
May 2016

... recanvass.

The difference being that he'd have to pay for a recount, and the taxpayers of Kentucky are forced to pay for a recanvass.

This is nothing more than a publicity stunt to allow Bernie to continue to cry foul and bitch about corruption.

Really cynical and petty.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
65. What a bastard for attempting to keep things honest
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:55 AM
May 2016

and accurate. How dare he.

Think it's about time for another donation.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
66. Curious. Is there any rules for automatic recount?
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:01 AM
May 2016

I'm here in Canada, and there is an automatic recount for any election where the results are 1/1000 difference. My math brain is dead this morning. What's 212555 vs 210631? Brain hurts. Argh!

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
67. Funny username for a Hillary supporter.
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:02 AM
May 2016

Did they pick that one out for you or you make it up yourself?

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
70. isnt it?
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:23 AM
May 2016

Im pretty sure NOT ONE Hillary supporter wants to discuss Saul Alinsky.
such an interesting aspect of who their candidate is, and who she is not.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
77. It's simply a carryover from other political forums on which I participate ...
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:09 AM
May 2016

... I chose it because it drives the freepers crazy.

It's funny that it has the same effect on the bros.

And, Brock didn't even help me pick it.



 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
73. I think it has more to do with checking vote integrity, than 1 delegate.
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:33 AM
May 2016

Sander's supporters have been asking him to have ballot checks... Verify the paper trail since AZ... That's when people started noticing the exit polls vs the machine count. Then the audit in IL showed that the machine count varied wildly from the hand count. Instead of flagging that check and adding additional audits or checking an entire district wide paper ballot vote, the board changed the hand count to match the machine and verified the election.

So, take a close count in KY and check the paper trail. Let's just see how "verifiable" the machines really are. And if there has been screwy results, then perhaps those other states were in error as well, as many suspect.

And notice, since people have been making a big stink about exit polls vs machine counts, they have decided there will be no further exit polling conducted in the remaining peimary elections. So, is anyone going to trust the vote from CA? Will anyone trust any of this primary? Many Bernie supporters are being called CT over this issue, but we know that 2000 and 2004 was stollen (2004 being a direct vote flip in OH). And the exit polls this time around have the Republican race matching quite accurately, however, in the same primaries, the Demicratic primary exit and machine vote totals are off? Along with the establishment being against Bernie the entire time, manipulating debates, media ignoring or doing "hit" pieces on Bernie, super delegates lining up behind Hillary before anyone announced, the DNC creating that Hillary PAC deal with 33 states.... It's been really disgusting how "rigged" the Dem Primaries have been for 2016.... All to prop up an unpopular candidate that the public doesn't trust or like, and who is running while under FBI investigation. The audacity to run while under investigation is absolute hubris... And the Democratic Party to hold up such a nominee like this is absolutely devastating to the brand!

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
80. Stop with the "integrity" BS already ...
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:12 AM
May 2016

... this is a cynical move with zero potential to change anything.

It's nothing more than a publicity stunt that will allow him to continue to cry foul and bitch about corruption.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
83. It was not BS in 2000, it is not BS now
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:16 AM
May 2016

you ether in it,I do, or you don't, obviously you do not give a shit. Yes, it is bad, and we had BLACK BOX VOTING in KY by the way.

trudyco

(1,258 posts)
86. Yes.
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:25 AM
May 2016

I get tired of people using the same narratives. Bernie is a sore loser, whiner, big ego, wasting taxpayer money (god that one sounds like a Repuke), he's not even a real Democrat, he shouldn't complain when he's treated shoddily by the DNC because he shouldn't even be in the primary so he should STFU, his supporters are young and don't know how to vote or are too lazy to vote and that's why the vote counts don't match the rallies, are not Democrats, are privileged white people, are fringe, are violent and unpredictable (I suppose that's to scare old people), are youngsters who just want everything for free and there's no such thing as a free lunch (another Repuke meme) etc.

I feel like I got stuck, like Kathleen Bates in American Horror Stories where her detached head had to watch tv, I feel like I got stuck watching fox memes over and over and. over. Here in DU.

I remember Colbert doing an episode where the Fox meme of the day for Obamacare was that the huge paper document was put together with a giant paper clip. Show after show featured Fox personalities moaning over a big paper clip, like obviously that was bad. The paper clip proved Obamacare was a joke.

These Bernie comments feel like the paper clip episode. Ridiculous. Purposely misunderstanding the importance of things or what Bernie and his supporters represent, marginalizing progressives who are part of the Democratic Party, purposely ignoring the negatives of Clinton or the evidence of election fraud... they want to push through their narrative of the day. Over and over and over.

Stupid paper clips.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
87. They learned their Brock and DNC daily memes well. And included a double
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:31 AM
May 2016

dose of hate, bigotry and scorn for all those desperately needing change and having to fight through all of this just to be recognized.

Purposeful misunderstanding is putting it kindly, imo.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
88. Of course, he has the right, and no one suggested otherwise ...
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:40 AM
May 2016

... he has the right to do a lot of things that will do damage to the party and help no one but Trump.

The question is, should he exercise those rights and to what end?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
82. Until we shine a light on our various primary and caucus processes...
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:14 AM
May 2016

...they won't get any better or more standardized.

I'm not sure standardization is necessarily to be desired, but Sanders is the only reason any attention is being paid this cycle to the vagaries of the system. It makes us all smarter, and I approve.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
85. It's a matter of how many states each candidate won.
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:22 AM
May 2016

Bernie probably won Iowa, Missouri and a few more of the razor thin outcomes. It's time to fight for the "winner" appellation.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
100. You see, this is why an education in the classics is so very important!
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:34 PM
May 2016

Terms like "hubris" and "pyrrhic victory" just aren't widely understood anymore. Hillarians seem particularly ignorant of their import.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
98. Why not just admit that Bernie Sanders gaining an extra delegate isn't the problem
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:23 PM
May 2016

you have with a recanvass in Kentucky but, rather, the potential "horror" of Bernie winning 21 rather than 20 states to Hillary's 23 so far? Of course it won't make a difference to Hillary's significant delegate lead; however, 21 states to 23 states just doesn't sound as good, does it?

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
99. It's not the delegate, it's what gets revealed in the recount.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:31 PM
May 2016

Should be interesting. I'm glad he's doing it, as he has a right to do.

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