It's the dark cloud of the investigation (which is just beginning to come out), that will doom her
candidacy. The e-mails, the Clinton Foundation, the Wall Street speech transcripts. All of those
things are lining up against HRC.
If she gets elected we will have the first husband/wife Presidents that are both impeached.
And if she is not indicted, which I believe she will get out of, she will surely be impeached.
A smear on our party for years to come.
If you believe the obstruction of Obama was bad, as I do, Wait until HRC gets elected, if she
makes it that far.

No one is being indicted, no one is going to jail. If Bernie Sanders has to win by default, he's a pathetic candidate who will have to hope that Trump has to be indicted to win the general election. No matter what happens, Bernie Sanders will never be President short of attempting a coup.

Bernie have the nomination?

NO! I'm really not kidding, either.

I just wanted to see who would seriously believe that democratic process should be overturned to benefit a losing candidate.

that women should become submissive when men threaten them with violence?

Inquiring minds want to know.

It was an exercise in sarcasm.

I mean it's not as if the OP did not posit that a woman should stand back in favor of a man because it's not worth all the anger and fighting...



(And to the OP, if you intend sarcasm, then use the sarcasm smiley. It's not as if the silliness in your post has not been seriously proposed by Bernie supporters.)

Add that to the fact the OP was a Hillary supporter and you lose again.

And I don't care that the OP is a Hillary supporter - there was no indication that he/she was not serious. After all, this is exactly the kind of bullshit argument that the Bernie folks are making.

And no, I don't 'use the sexism card at the drop of a hat.' I've done research on domestic violence, and the pattern of women drawing back, not standing up for themselves, becoming more submissive, when threatened with "all the anger and fighting" is sadly a typical one. So the OP's proposal echoed a very serious pattern.

She's still got the majority of Super Delegates, so why should she back down?

I would love for the Supers to side with Bernie. But they need to do that because they think he is the best option for the party, not because people are angry. Bernie would be viewed as illegitimate unless the super delegates who voted for him could make a strong case of why they did.

If you lose the pledged delegate count and trail by double digits in the popular vote, you shouldn't get the nomination through a procedural maneuvers.

If the super delegates get wind that Hillary is going to face indictment, would their flip to Bernie be illegitimate? I think for the party's sake that would be the right action and not too many real Democrats would disagree.

And Sanders strategy to flip superdelegates isn't even based on that, it is based on hypothetical match-up polls for the general. This nutty indictment theory isn't even part of Sanders' already nutty strategy.

The FBI report will be much tougher on Hillary than the just released State Department Inspector General's report. If they recommend indictment (which given what we know right now is not highly likely, but likely enough to cause concern), Hillary as nominee would kill the party's chances in November.

I find it amazing how easily Hillary supporters simply dismiss something so serious and so dangerous. She's already a very weak candidate and any more bad news is going to sink her.

Trump would screw up as President anyway, so Democrats would take Congress in 2018 and likely have control of redistricting for the next cycle.

No use arguing about it. I'll leave it at that. Goodbye.

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Why would you intentionally put "I'm really not kidding" in the headline when you clearly are??

desperation for attention.....looks bad on you.

It was an exercise in honesty. Looks bad for any who would agree with stealing the nomination through procedural move.

Just not honesty on your part.

Got it.

Your OP was a total lie, yet you wanted to discover the dishonesty of others. Who the frack are you James O'Keefe?

Our Party put these rules in place. If your scenario played out, Democracy would not have been usurped. Rules would have been followed and Supers given their rightful voting ability.

If you have a problem with the Party Mr. Florez, just say so.

Superdelegates are really only supposed to be a safety net for if someone totally unacceptable was to win the pledged delegate count. Imagine if Trump had run as a Democrat and secured the nomination by running up score among right-wing independents and Republicans able to crossover to vote, that would have been a disaster. That sort of situation is quite unlikely, but it is the sort of emergency where superdelegates would step in.

You're point is that the supers have never over ruled the popular vote, while recognizing that this is the sole reason they exist.

I think you are negating your own point.

If you state you are not kidding then it is not satire then it's a lie.

Turnabout would be fair play.

I know it' s not gonna happen....But you have to admit rigging the board for Clinton long before the first vote was cast -- and thus setting in place the "She's the inevitable nominee" meme -- tilted everything in her favor from the start.

for Hillary Clinton.

I wonder how the Superdelegates arranged to vote that many times. After all, the are only 714 of them nationwide compared to 4,051 pledged delegates

From the beginning it was setup like she was the only "serious" candidate

I tell.you how many people who have said to me I really like Bernie and prefer his policies, but I have to support her because she's the one who can win

The pledged delegate count has allowed the superdelegates to remain in Clinton's column. Plenty endorsed early in 2008's cycle, but switched over to Obama when he was clearly ahead in the pledged delegate count.

But at least you're giving it your all to entertain the anti-Bernie-supporter troops! Good for you. Nothing like a good belly laugh to make your day seem brighter, right? Glad to see you're here, joking around, instead of out there actually trying to undermine Bernie Sanders' campaign in California. Thank you!

FBI.

Am I right?