2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFrom Robert Reich on Facebook re: Bernie or Bust
Last week I suggested Bernie supporters do three things: (1) fight like hell for Bernie until he either gets or loses the nomination, (2) if Hillary gets the nomination, fight like hell for her, and (3) regardless of who wins the nomination or the election, continue to build a powerful progressive movement.
Several of you disagree with (1), saying Bernie has no chance, and his continuing candidacy is just hurting Hillary, so he should bow out of the race. Ill get back to this point in a subsequent post.
Here I want to address those of you who disagree with (2). As I understand your arguments, they fall into four categories:
1. Some of you say that by refusing to fight for Hillary (if she gets the nomination) youll show the political establishment you want the changes Bernie has been advocating. The problem with this logic is the political establishment is nothing but a bunch of people in comfortable and often privileged positions who will continue doing what theyre doing because they like the status quo, and wont even be aware youre not fighting for Hillary unless, that is, Hillary loses to Trump. Which leads to the next argument.
2. Some of you say theres no real difference between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. The problem with this logic is it's wrong. Regardless of what you may think of Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump is a true menace to this nation and to the world. Hes a narcissistic, xenophobic, hatemonger who, if elected, would legitimize bigotry, appoint Supreme Court justices with terrible values, and have his finger on the nuclear bomb. Need I say more? Which brings us to the third argument.
3. Some of you say a Trump presidency would be so horrible it would galvanize a forceful progressive movement in response. The problem with this argument is twofold. First, Trump could do huge and unalterable damage to America and the world in the meantime. Second, rarely if ever in history has a sharp swing to the right moved the political pendulum further back in the opposite direction. Instead, it tends to move the center rightward, as did Ronald Reagans presidency.
4. Finally, some of you say that even if Hillary is better than Trump, youre tired of choosing the lesser of two evils, and youre going to vote your conscience by either writing Bernies name in, or voting for the Green Party candidate, or not voting at all. I cant criticize you for voting your conscience, of course. But your conscience should know that a decision not to vote for Hillary is a de facto decision to help Donald Trump.
What do you think?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)And, my decision to vote for neither is NOT a "de facto decision to help Trump".
Trump doesn't gain a vote if I don't vote for Hillary or him.
0-0 = 0
840high
(17,196 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I just realized your logic is sound.
I don't know how I feel right now. I think I'll shut myself up for a little while.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)that appeals to more voters.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)oasis
(49,393 posts)gonna plague the U.S. citizenry for at least 3 decades.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Is in #3:
Second, rarely if ever in history has a sharp swing to the right moved the political pendulum further back in the opposite direction. Instead, it tends to move the center rightward, as did Ronald Reagans presidency.
Though your reason is up there in my list of reasons too. Hmmm maybe SCOTUS is #1, and the above reason is #2.