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upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:43 AM May 2016

So Sanders is going to hold a rally in my home town on Saturday. Guess who is not going.

My mother-in-law asked my wife if she wanted to go to the Sanders rally. My wife said "hell no". Neither one of us can stand to listen to that man.

We already voted for Hillary in the CA primary two weeks ago by mail.

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So Sanders is going to hold a rally in my home town on Saturday. Guess who is not going. (Original Post) upaloopa May 2016 OP
People that don't vote will go. nt LexVegas May 2016 #1
That's exactly how I'd respond if invited to a Clinton rally. It's like nails on a chalkboard. Vinca May 2016 #2
Oh my. That is important news. I can see the headlines now. cali May 2016 #3
Should have been posted in LBN. progressoid May 2016 #13
Meh. Shadowflash May 2016 #4
For someone who has no shot at the nomination bigwillq May 2016 #5
So the rally sold out minutes after tickets were released B Calm May 2016 #6
Cool Story. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #7
My wife stood in line to see Sanders in Riverside a few days ago. Codeine May 2016 #8
I'm with her! Snarkoleptic May 2016 #9
I'm with both of you. That's the way to politic. :) Hortensis May 2016 #14
At this point he seems like a televangelist on a farewell tour. ucrdem May 2016 #10
Look at all those room dividers Armstead May 2016 #15
That was then. ucrdem May 2016 #16
This may not be a final "farwell tour." It also seems Hortensis May 2016 #17
It's a strange message. ucrdem May 2016 #18
I'm not certain, either, and neither apparently are they. Hortensis May 2016 #21
I'm sure he'll be devastated to learn that Armstead May 2016 #11
More room for all the Bernie fanatics, I'm sure the crowds will be huge One Black Sheep May 2016 #12
good for you Demsrule86 May 2016 #19
LOL! floppyboo May 2016 #22
Thanks for voting early. The Sanders rally will look like the MineralMan May 2016 #20
Funny, I'd go to any of the campaign speeches, from either party. How does one get so polarized? TheBlackAdder May 2016 #23
No one else will go either. And besides, who wants to stand with 30k people in a mile long line? n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #24
 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
5. For someone who has no shot at the nomination
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:50 AM
May 2016

Folks sure do like to talk about Bernie. Thanks for keeping him in the news!

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
8. My wife stood in line to see Sanders in Riverside a few days ago.
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:00 AM
May 2016

She knew better than to even ask if I wanted to accompany her; we'll each be happily cancelling the other's votes out this primary.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
10. At this point he seems like a televangelist on a farewell tour.
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:11 AM
May 2016

He can't win, but he goes on about how he's winning. He'll never run against Trump, but he says he's the only one who can beat Trump. Most of it is "Secretary Clinton" bashing, directly and indirectly, and bashing the DNC and Obama administration, though I didn't hear him mention Obama by name. Not much policy. You've heard it all before. The venues are smallish but made to appear bigger with room dividers so there's always a line waiting to get in. The people I met at the local one were nice but didn't seem like they knew a lot about politics. Kind of the Ron Paul demographic. Not very inspiring but YMMV.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. This may not be a final "farwell tour." It also seems
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:35 AM
May 2016

possible that he has achieved more than he hoped to when he began and that his plan is up and running satisfactorily as far as he's concerned. Apparently his followers are trying to effect rules changes and get into decision-making positions in precincts around the nation. Not always competently from some I've heard, and you're seeing, but they'll learn if they stick, very questionable for most of course. We'll have to see how much of that movement continues.

Sadly, you're obviously right about the Clinton bashing and pretending to still be an alternative. So ignominiously, bashing her and satisfying resentment by promising to stick it to the rich are still energizing a far, far, far more fans than prating about actual fixes, like universal healthcare and income redistribution.

Not a crowd I'd care to join at this point either, and I'm guessing some not showing are mature liberals who'd once considered investing their vote for change in him.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
18. It's a strange message.
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:44 AM
May 2016

Apart from Hillary stinks and Democrats are evil though I'm not certain what it is. Yes, he talks with great pride about his movement. His movement to do what? Change your voter registration from D to I? Well, we saw the results of that inspirational message in Nevada when dozens of his delegates got themselves disqualified. That leaves sending him money I guess.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. I'm not certain, either, and neither apparently are they.
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:28 AM
May 2016

Did you see this piece about Sanders supporters from a pair of political scientists in the NY Times Opinion section the other day? Hardly flattering.

They all styled themselves as high-minded ideologues out to reform the nation, liberal, "progressive," or otherwise. Instead of passion for policy and issue, though, the passion was for attack, and these guys feel their data explain that, among other things by revealing that his support is concentrated among "disaffected white men." (I like to think Bernie drew the "cream" of that group away from Trump, for a while anyway. )

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/opinion/campaign-stops/do-sanders-supporters-favor-his-policies.html?smid=tw-share

Below is Paul Krugman's rather "romanticized" take on that, if you haven't seen it also: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/the-truth-about-the-sanders-movement/?login=email&ref=opinion&_r=0&mtrref=www.nytimes.com&assetType=opinion
He doesn't mention extremism or the far left or right but instead identifies "idealists" and "romantics" to describe some less toxic followers and then "purists" and a whole block with "Clinton Derangement Syndrome" far less kindly. He can't be any more familiar with these people than non-SBS liberals here on DU are.

3.Purists: A somewhat different strand in the movement, also familiar to those of us of a certain age, consists of those for whom political activism is less about achieving things and more about striking a personal pose. They are the pure, the unsullied, who reject the corruptions of this world and all those even slightly tainted – which means anyone who actually has gotten anything done. Quite a few Sanders surrogates were Naderites in 2000; the results of that venture don’t bother them, because it was never really about results, only about affirming personal identity.

4.CDS victims: Quite a few Sanders supporters are mainly Clinton-haters, deep in the grip of Clinton Derangement Syndrome; they know that Hillary is corrupt and evil, because that’s what they hear all the time; they don’t realize that the reason it’s what they hear all the time is that right-wing billionaires have spent more than two decades promoting that message. Sanders has gotten a number of votes from conservative Democrats who are voting against her, not for him, and for sure there are liberal supporters who have absorbed the same message, even if they don’t watch Fox News.

Then there are his "Salon des Refuses," professionals on the outside who saw Sanders are their ticket to get inside and sharpened their adjectives for battle.

One thing, this season has been fascinating and a real education, for those who can decipher it. If only more people were trying to mine it for understanding. I'm personally really looking forward to high-quality books and articles from those are currently working to develop just that.




One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
12. More room for all the Bernie fanatics, I'm sure the crowds will be huge
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:13 AM
May 2016

Meanwhile, Hillary can't even fill a small room. People just don't like Hillary, for some reason.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
22. LOL!
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:35 AM
May 2016

"I despise Sanders and have no interest in his canned same old same old speeches.", said with Kindness and Love.

TheBlackAdder

(28,205 posts)
23. Funny, I'd go to any of the campaign speeches, from either party. How does one get so polarized?
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:45 AM
May 2016

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So polarized to shut down any outside thought?

I am really curious, how people can get such disdain that they cannot even watch someone else.


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