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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:27 AM May 2016

You can't believe anything Hillary says. She lies all the time.

Have you ever paid a technician to set up your own personal email server because it seemed more convenient than using the free one at work? Probably not.

The only reason Hillary did that was to avoid government oversight laws. Probably because she was doing some very crooked things. Probably taking money from horrible people and then providing them government services.

Her crew deleted tons of emails before they could be exposed.

They knew destroying the evidence would be a scandal. But they they made a political calculation that whatever was in those files would have been a much worse scandal. Whatever it was we'll never know, but it must have been simply awful.


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You can't believe anything Hillary says. She lies all the time. (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich May 2016 OP
What a tangled web... dchill May 2016 #1
They called her a liar several times on Morning Joe today. They showed her last comment bkkyosemite May 2016 #2
The poll done last month that found 19% of people found her to be honest Matt_in_STL May 2016 #3
Be of good cheer - ALL of the deleted email was recovered. IdaBriggs May 2016 #4
Clinton knows more about how much trouble she's in... dchill May 2016 #5
But Berner conspiracy theories, those are totally believable. YouDig May 2016 #6
What conspiracies? cali May 2016 #8
This OP, for example, claiming that she did this for nefarious reasons to cover something up. YouDig May 2016 #9
That isn't a conspiracy theory. It's the most mainstream speculation as cali May 2016 #11
The OP is based on the belief that she could have no other reason BootinUp May 2016 #10
What's the over/under on the date that these posts will be bannable? Tarc May 2016 #7
she admitted that using e-mail was bad because of the investigations dana_b May 2016 #12
Oh my. It's clear she was just trying to cheat public records laws. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #14
And have all emails for her inner circle unc70 May 2016 #13
You might want to chill just a bit with the rhetoric as it could have some potentially cstanleytech May 2016 #15
LOL whatevs Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #17
Like I said it's your choice on if you want to follow my advice if not you are cstanleytech May 2016 #18
Please don't tell mommy!!! Yurovsky May 2016 #21
Bwahahahahahaha! So scarey!!! Yurovsky May 2016 #19
Hey it's not meant to be scary it's just advice and by the number of hides you have yourself cstanleytech May 2016 #20
Yes because my life would end... Yurovsky May 2016 #22
Not a single fuck given. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #24
note to alerter: grasswire May 2016 #25
Ya that part didn't make much sense to me either since the campaign is still in progress. nt cstanleytech May 2016 #26
We still aren't allowed to know the extent of Saudi involvement in 911. Doubt they tell us this. EndElectoral May 2016 #16
Says the guy with 16 hides. zappaman May 2016 #23
Voters Will Decide jamese777 May 2016 #27
Tiresome MFM008 May 2016 #28

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
2. They called her a liar several times on Morning Joe today. They showed her last comment
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:30 AM
May 2016

about the server and pointed out how she was lying again..it's pathological.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
3. The poll done last month that found 19% of people found her to be honest
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:37 AM
May 2016

Showed that only 40% of Democrats said they found her to be honest. That means that many of her own supporters and voters think she is a liar. Quite the campaign for winning people over.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
4. Be of good cheer - ALL of the deleted email was recovered.
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

Turns out one of the companies was keeping "cloud backup" for her, but forgot to include the charges on the bill. They gave EVERYTHING to the FBI, and apologized for the billing error.

dchill

(38,502 posts)
5. Clinton knows more about how much trouble she's in...
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:39 PM
May 2016

than just about anyone. She wiped it, like with a cloth!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. That isn't a conspiracy theory. It's the most mainstream speculation as
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:53 PM
May 2016

to motivation- that she wanted to avoid FOIA requests. Perhaps you think the NYT, WaPo, and dozens of other mainstream outlets are CTers?

BootinUp

(47,156 posts)
10. The OP is based on the belief that she could have no other reason
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:45 PM
May 2016

for privacy concerns other than to do bad stuff to America. That kind of thinking is conspiracy minded.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
12. she admitted that using e-mail was bad because of the investigations
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:56 PM
May 2016

that she had been through. So a few years later, when SOS, she knows what a risk it is and decides, without getting approval, to have her own personal server.

Go to 3:15 to hear her admit this.

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She knew that if her e-mails were available to the State Department that she may get into trouble for whatever she was doing! This was all preplanned. She is not a stupid or naive woman.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
13. And have all emails for her inner circle
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:00 PM
May 2016

Clinton's inner circle all had Blackberrys and their own mail accounts on the same server. included in all those emails are ones regarding the various Clinton foundations and various donors and allies. Once probable cause was established for that server in a criminal investigation, then it became open season for everything it contained. All the Clinton operations are now evidence in a criminal inquiry.

Probable cause is critical in any criminal investigation. The Guccifer hack of Blumenthal's email is a key to establishing initial probable cause in this matter, whether he successfully hacked her server or not.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
15. You might want to chill just a bit with the rhetoric as it could have some potentially
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:01 PM
May 2016

unfortunate side effects such as a permanent ban.
You can of course choose to ignore this advice because that is your prerogative but consider this, do you want people to talk about Bernie like you just did about Hillary?

Edit: In case you were wondering I was one of the ones who voted NOT to hide your post.

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You can't believe anything Hillary says. She lies all the time.
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"Hillary lies all the time" If I said this about Bernie, I would get a hide. This is divisive and NOT helping in what we are facing D. Trump!

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Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I completely disagree with the poster about claiming she lies all the time and I believe they are either a troll or simply a delusional individual who forgot to take their meds but that aside I am not sure if this really deserves a hide
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cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
18. Like I said it's your choice on if you want to follow my advice if not you are
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

the one that will have to live with the consequences.

Edit: Also just wanted to add again that you might want to again consider just pausing for a second or two in the future and ask yourself "Would I be upset after reading this if it was directed at someone I know or support?" before you post.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
21. Please don't tell mommy!!!
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016

Cheese sandwich will be good! Just give him another chance oh great and mighty internets policeman!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
20. Hey it's not meant to be scary it's just advice and by the number of hides you have yourself
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:16 PM
May 2016

I would hazard to say that its advice you might want to consider taking as well.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
22. Yes because my life would end...
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:26 PM
May 2016

FWIW, I've had posts hidden for simply posting an unaltered picture of Hillary wearing an orange pantsuit. A photo actually released by HER campaign.

If that is the level of sensitivity that will trigger a meltdown by Hillary supporters, i probably won't be around for long. And then you people can enjoy the echo chamber, free from anything that might constitute disagreement with the world according to Hillary.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
24. Not a single fuck given.
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:29 PM
May 2016

Yes, a purge is coming...after the convention. No problem: after the convention, unless Princess Weathervane does the right thing and suspends her campaign, I'll be taking a break from here anyway. Even given the huge changes coming, I'd have honored the rules.

If the purge occurs, against all previous statements and policies, before the convention? Well, that wouldn't be a place I had any interest in remaining, anyway.

jamese777

(546 posts)
27. Voters Will Decide
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:55 PM
May 2016

Democratic Primary voters and Caucus attendees in the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, California, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Washington D.C. with 760 pledged delegates at stake will decide Hillary Clinton's immediate electoral fate and in my humble opinion, that's just as it should be.

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