2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBenghazi cover-up allegations: does anyone know what that is all about?
I keep seeing references to a Benghazi cover-up conspiracy, nothing about what it actually is. I Googled it, but all the "sources" on it seem to be from Murdock propaganda outlets (Fox, WSJ, Foxperts using other media forums) or other RW websites.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)I guess O. was supposed to call in an airstrike against a heavily populated city in a country that was not our enemy--oh, yeah, and possibly kill the same people it was supposed to save.
patrice
(47,992 posts)that and they're PISSED that they, hence, cannot make a case like Joe Wilson's against Cheney.
hepkat
(143 posts)Cons miss the days when they could create a scandal out of thin air. Like in the Clinton administration. Thankfully those days are done. Even politico admits Faux is making this up.
gateley
(62,683 posts)Cosmocat
(14,572 posts)because Faux is driving it.
They almost ALWAYS are allowed to drive the debate, and it is really frustrating to them that they can't force the rest of the media half wits to follow them down this rat hole.
RichGirl
(4,119 posts)They tell their viewers what to think...and they think it.
Informattion goes into their ears...comes directly out of there mouths...without ever making a little side trip through their miniscule little brains.
FVZA_Colonel
(4,096 posts)The attack itself was over before D.C. had a clear idea of what was going on, or how to respond.
To suggest the President just sat back and let them die is despicable.
patrice
(47,992 posts)Benghazi, in order to give himself political cover on how quick and on-the-spot his reaction to the crisis was and so that they could then have accused him of treason for revealing, a la Dick Cheney outing Valerie Plame, secret intelligence operations.
It's all about revenge for Democratic lack of respect for Shrub/Cheney by supposedly revealing Democratic hypocrisy on the matter of outing intelligence operatives, which Darrel Issa did anyway in re Benghazi a couple of weeks BEFORE comment on the fact finally came from the Obama administration because Issa had already given it to the media.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)has got nothing on Obama, so they make shit up.
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)they are desperately trying to come up with something to compare him with President Carter.
but there's nothing. NOTHING.
I expect some republicans to actually switch parties within the next four years due to
how squeaky clean our President is. They can't keep lying for the next four years and
expect to keep fooling their base. It won't work this time.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)there are so many fact checkers online that it is easy for anyone to confirm
republican claims. they have made asses out of themselves.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)They have nothing but lies. And enough people know it now to cram their lies right back down their throats.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)The GOP is setting the stage they will use to impeach Obama in the next year or two. Totally spurious charges but it will be an imperative if they hold the majority in the House, it will happen on a strictly partisan basis.
ShadowLiberal
(2,237 posts)Most of the contraversy the right wing and fox keep on attacking Obama for are lies.
For example, claiming Obama waited a week to call it a terrorist attack, even though the terrorists took credit for it on Facebook the next day, which must show how incompetent Obama and his people are? Not true, the terrorists posted that they APPROVED (or LIKED would be a better word) the attack. They DID NOT claim credit for it.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)Where are they getting that from. Or the idea that there were Marines available who could have protected the embassies. This is what I'm hearing (without sources, of course).
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)I am LOL at their allegations.....
add on edit: they are spinning a story out of whole cloth.....
Deep13
(39,154 posts)One of my friends was in the army like 30 years ago and he can tell me what special forces are capable of! Why don't I turn off MSNBC and read the cable feeds? So, he's guessing. He also doesn't seem to get that the USA cannot simply send the Marines into a another country, especially if it is already friendly to the USA. Everything on-line that references this that I can find is either written by a Murdock servant or a fringe website like Breitbart.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)I channel flipped to Fox and the "judge" was on with two military "experts" who were faulting the administration for not calling in a A-10 Thunderbolt that was at an airbase across the Mediterranean. What could a warplane have done? Blow up everyone within a hundred yards? I could only shake my head.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)Seriously, make them back up their assertions. Make them admit that they heard it on Fox, and that's their only reason for believing it. Or that they read someone else's Facebook post - and don't them get away with literally saying "someone else" - make them name them, and then say "so what makes you think 'Don Martin' knows what went on - did you ask them if they got it from anywhere else than Fox?"
There's little point in us here on DU making up possible places where these people heard or read it. Ask them.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)...and if that is the case here, then I thought someone might be able to clue me in. Next time he brings it up, I'll ask him why he thinks so specifically.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)who placed the subtitles on that stupid b-grade movie short youtube and emailed it to that main internet Imon?
That was a week before 9-11 date and that internet holyman was the one person who called for protests at all usa embassies.
Really sounds like someone just wanted to stur up trouble right before that date or even provided 'cover' for a planned attack.
No matter the official Gov of Lybia arrested couple dozen of the local attackers within 2 days. With the USA team help, they arrested a couple more recently in Eqypt?
Still we need to go back to that film and reveal exactly who sub-titled that, posted it on youtube and directed the internet loudmouth Holyman. That person needs to be arrested.
wishlist
(2,795 posts)The Repubs I have heard discussing Libya are trying to complete dismiss any influence from this this inflammatory video despite the fact that all of the news media initially linked all of the protests and even the Libya attack to the video. Instead Repubs want to completely pin all the blame on the Obama Administration even though analysts studying the matter do see some sort of influence from the video.
It seems that because Repubs refuse to give any credence to notion of the video having any influence, nothing is being mentioned about who, what, why the video was released. Were certain parties trying to incite such an attack that could be used to undermine Obama's perceived success with foreign policy and fighting terrorism before the election? We do know that Romney made it clear he was going to take political advantage of any kind of international incident in the way that Reagan took advantage of the Iran hostage crisis during Carter's term, and he certainly jumped in to politicize the protests even before the events had completely unfolded.