2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThere will be no indictment of HRC
She will be the Democratic nominee for President..
I cannot see it any other way..
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)Fox news didn't really believe it either,
But it made for lots of negative press and discussion over there.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)Jack Bone
(2,023 posts)hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)Look at Reagan and Iran Contra, Bush and lying about Iraq.
Once you are sort of royalty like Clinton is where you could get a job or be fired based on your allegiance to them, or if you are in the media you could be denied access then the chances of getting gigged for doing anything is virtually nil.
The only way something like that happens is if someone who is more wealthy or has more connections wants you out of the way.
However witness Clinton's relationship with the Bush's which shows at that level there is sort of a club of the wealthy elite that would mostly prevent that.
If Bernie had done something like this, or O Malley, or really even somebody like Kerry it could sink them. However it is only a blip for Clinton. She's royalty.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)then you are untouchable.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)ThirdWayToTheHighway
(72 posts)How much did you get paid for this post?
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)she has a pass,no matter what she has done.
She is not a commoner like us.
JudyM
(29,250 posts)tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)At the very least she exhibited horrible and stupid judgement, and at the most, shirked the rules and broke the law on purpose?
Okay, whatever
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)ThirdWayToTheHighway
(72 posts)Please come tell us this again in Novemeber when the votes are in if she is the nominee.
frylock
(34,825 posts)yodermon
(6,143 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)I'll be honest though. After the Sharks win last night, I'm rooting for the Thunder! If the Sharks manage to win the Cup in the same year that the Warriors win the championship, those people up there will be insufferable! Looks like the damn Giants are on point this year too. Damn!!
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)At least, not before the inauguration. Can't vouch 100% for the transition period. Republicans will go straight to work on it, you can be sure.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)Clinton said, "I fully complied with every rule I was governed by."
Actually the report shows she didn't comply with m/any at all.
And as is way too typical lies to try to minimize the damage of her choices.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)said the rule that was ambiguous that governed: So she told the truth: Clarity was
done after the 2014 about electronic records. The government was
well aware of Hillary emails for years: as well as everyone elses emails:
they didn't believe they should be collecting records then as the required
by the rules. Hillary is being single out for political attack only!
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)And how little others realized the extent of her wrong-doing.
I suggest you re-read it.
"Secretary Clinton: By Secretary Clintons tenure, the Departments guidance was considerably
more detailed and more sophisticated. Beginning in late 2005 and continuing through 2011, the
Department revised the FAM and issued various memoranda specifically discussing the
obligation to use Department systems in most circumstances and identifying the risks of not
doing so. Secretary Clintons cybersecurity practices accordingly must be evaluated in light of
these more comprehensive directives.
Throughout Secretary Clintons tenure, the FAM stated that normal day-to-day operations
should be conducted on an authorized AIS,147 yet OIG found no evidence that the Secretary
requested or obtained guidance or approval to conduct official business via a personal email
account on her private server.
According to the current CIO and Assistant Secretary for Diplomatic Security, Secretary Clinton had an obligation to discuss using her personal email account to conduct official business with their offices, who in turn would have attempted to
provide her with approved and secured means that met her business needs. However, according
to these officials, DS and IRM did notand would notapprove her exclusive reliance on a
personal email account to conduct Department business, because of the restrictions in the FAM
and the security risks in doing so.
In addition to interviewing current and former officials in DS and IRM, OIG interviewed other
senior Department officials with relevant knowledge who served under Secretary Clinton,
including the Under Secretary for Management, who supervises both DS and IRM; current and
former Executive Secretaries; and attorneys within the Office of the Legal Adviser. These officials
all stated that they were not asked to approve or otherwise review the use of Secretary Clintons
server and that they had no knowledge of approval or review by other Department staff. These
officials also stated that they were unaware of the scope or extent of Secretary Clintons use of a
personal email account, though many of them sent emails to the Secretary on this account.
Secretary Clintons Chief of Staff also testified before the House Select Committee on Benghazi
that she was unaware of anyone being consulted about the Secretarys exclusive use of a personal email address.15
During Secretary Clintons tenure, the FAM also instructed employees that they were expected
to use approved, secure methods to transmit SBU information and that, if they needed to
transmit SBU information outside the Departments OpenNet network on a regular basis to nonDepartmental
addresses, they should request a solution from IRM.148 However, OIG found no
evidence that Secretary Clinton ever contacted IRM to request such a solution, despite the fact
that emails exchanged on her personal account regularly contained information marked as SBU
Similarly, the FAM contained provisions requiring employees who process SBU information on
their own devices to ensure that appropriate administrative, technical, and physical safeguards
are maintained to protect the confidentiality and integrity of records and to ensure encryption
of SBU information with products certified by NIST.149 With regard to encryption, Secretary
Clintons website states that robust protections were put in place and additional upgrades and
techniques employed over time as they became available, including consulting and employing
third party experts.150 Although this report does not address the safety or security of her
system, DS and IRM reported to OIG that Secretary Clinton never demonstrated to them that her
private server or mobile device met minimum information security requirements specified by FISMA and the FAM.
Secretary Clinton used mobile devices to conduct official business using the personal email
account on her private server extensively, as illustrated by the 55,000 pages of material making
up the approximately 30,000 emails she provided to the Department in December 2014.
Throughout Secretary Clintons tenure, the FAM stated that normal day-to-day operations
should be conducted on an authorized AIS,147 yet OIG found no evidence that the Secretary
requested or obtained guidance or approval to conduct official business via a personal email
account on her private server.
etc etc etc
ThirdWayToTheHighway
(72 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)There are a few people licking their lips over a frogmarch moment, hoping for their own Fitzmas.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Time for change
(13,714 posts)Is it posted as news, or just to gloat that (in your opinion) your candidate will be the nominee? If it is the latter, do you realize that the only purpose it serves is to anger Bernie supporters and make them less likely to want to vote for someone whose supporters show such arrogance?
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)So what do you know.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)except some here, of course
cali
(114,904 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)See? I can do it too.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)that Trump is selling.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)All in it together
(275 posts)We need a candidate that follows the legal requirements of government freedom of information act for one thing
she's reckless about cybersecurity and unwilling to be transparent about her money connections and speeches.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)That would be a disaster.
Your second assertion is likely true, the first, that she will it be indicted is just idle speculation. One assertion has verifiable evidence to justify it. The other has nothing
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)newrevolution
(26 posts)won't face prison time.