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There will be no indictment of HRC (Original Post) Peacetrain May 2016 OP
I agree with your statements. (nt) bigwillq May 2016 #1
There will be no indictment because Hillary told the truth lewebley3 May 2016 #14
Hahahahahahahaha! Press Virginia May 2016 #28
Your opinion. bkkyosemite May 2016 #2
I think everyone knows that. Hillary has won and will be our nominee. Trust Buster May 2016 #3
K&R! stonecutter357 May 2016 #4
Was this ever really in doubt? The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #5
Coupled with far left . . . Iliyah May 2016 #10
... Ned_Devine May 2016 #6
HaHa! Jack Bone May 2016 #34
Once you rise to the level of wealth and power Clinton has, you are untouchable. hollowdweller May 2016 #7
No, if you tell the truth and are innocence: Justice some time prevails lewebley3 May 2016 #16
Hahahahahahahahaha! Press Virginia May 2016 #29
Oh Christ ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #51
exactly,she would not have run if she were truly worried about it. wendylaroux May 2016 #54
Thank you for that grand pronouncement. Why even bother, though, if it's self-evident? JudyM May 2016 #8
So apparently it doesn't bother you that... tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #9
Hillary has great judgment that is why people want her to be President lewebley3 May 2016 #19
Right ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #52
OKC or Golden State tonight? frylock May 2016 #11
OKC. It's like Curry's got the flu or something :( yodermon May 2016 #27
Something ain't right. frylock May 2016 #33
Probably not. JackRiddler May 2016 #12
Cool - liars in the white house are fun! nt jmg257 May 2016 #13
Obama is very honest: Sanders lied about free college and break up banks lewebley3 May 2016 #21
Yes Obama is pretty good...the current crop of nominees need a bit of work. jmg257 May 2016 #24
She complied with the rule that she was governed by: the report lewebley3 May 2016 #39
If she is Prez, I hope you're right. But that arguement will be argued for years!!! no Governing!!! floppyboo May 2016 #46
The report is very specific about what rules she broke, about how she lied and misled. jmg257 May 2016 #49
He lied? How? ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #53
Why bother indicting? Just ship her right to jail anyway. Blue_Adept May 2016 #15
Hillary has been back bigger attacks: She has told the truth lewebley3 May 2016 #40
What is the point of posts like this, that proclaim Hillary the nominee? Time for change May 2016 #17
Hilary's nomination is something to Cheer she will be a great leader lewebley3 May 2016 #22
I predict that your prediction will come true (regrettably). Vattel May 2016 #18
18 more days to cope with the sadness that Clinton won't go to jail on nonsense geek tragedy May 2016 #44
I never thought she would. Vattel May 2016 #55
You also believed her lies on the topic, which are now falling apart. Marr May 2016 #20
Hillary has not lied lewebley3 May 2016 #41
exactly - and most voters will be past the poutrage DrDan May 2016 #23
Agreed. But I think trump could very well beat her. cali May 2016 #25
Hillary cannot be beat if all Americans stand up against Trumps fascism lewebley3 May 2016 #42
I will win the Powerball, and be awarded the Nobel Prize. Jester Messiah May 2016 #26
The real question is: Will she be in office come late January, 2021? I have serious doubts. floriduck May 2016 #30
No, the real questions is Can the American people stand up against Fascism lewebley3 May 2016 #43
There will be so many disappointed Bernie fans redstateblues May 2016 #31
You can't or won't see it any other way? All in it together May 2016 #32
Hillary is smart to not trust anyone and to think things through lewebley3 May 2016 #47
I belieeve you are correct. lunamagica May 2016 #35
Well she could end up the indicted nominee Warren Stupidity May 2016 #36
Then perhaps you need to open your eyes. The truth is none of us on this board really know. EndElectoral May 2016 #37
You are correct OP . The deal that's being cut is she drops from the race and she newrevolution May 2016 #38
if the FBI recommends charges be brought and the Obama admin ignores it, then it's a real problem Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #45
Yes. But there are many opportunities in the growing field of private security. nt ucrdem May 2016 #48
huh? I don't follow. Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #50
 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
5. Was this ever really in doubt?
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:40 AM
May 2016

Fox news didn't really believe it either,
But it made for lots of negative press and discussion over there.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
7. Once you rise to the level of wealth and power Clinton has, you are untouchable.
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:51 AM
May 2016

Look at Reagan and Iran Contra, Bush and lying about Iraq.

Once you are sort of royalty like Clinton is where you could get a job or be fired based on your allegiance to them, or if you are in the media you could be denied access then the chances of getting gigged for doing anything is virtually nil.

The only way something like that happens is if someone who is more wealthy or has more connections wants you out of the way.

However witness Clinton's relationship with the Bush's which shows at that level there is sort of a club of the wealthy elite that would mostly prevent that.

If Bernie had done something like this, or O Malley, or really even somebody like Kerry it could sink them. However it is only a blip for Clinton. She's royalty.

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
54. exactly,she would not have run if she were truly worried about it.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:27 PM
May 2016

she has a pass,no matter what she has done.

She is not a commoner like us.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
9. So apparently it doesn't bother you that...
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:02 PM
May 2016

At the very least she exhibited horrible and stupid judgement, and at the most, shirked the rules and broke the law on purpose?

Okay, whatever

frylock

(34,825 posts)
33. Something ain't right.
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:55 PM
May 2016

I'll be honest though. After the Sharks win last night, I'm rooting for the Thunder! If the Sharks manage to win the Cup in the same year that the Warriors win the championship, those people up there will be insufferable! Looks like the damn Giants are on point this year too. Damn!!

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
12. Probably not.
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:21 PM
May 2016

At least, not before the inauguration. Can't vouch 100% for the transition period. Republicans will go straight to work on it, you can be sure.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
24. Yes Obama is pretty good...the current crop of nominees need a bit of work.
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:34 PM
May 2016

Clinton said, "I fully complied with every rule I was governed by."

Actually the report shows she didn't comply with m/any at all.

And as is way too typical lies to try to minimize the damage of her choices.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
39. She complied with the rule that she was governed by: the report
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:10 PM
May 2016

said the rule that was ambiguous that governed: So she told the truth: Clarity was
done after the 2014 about electronic records. The government was
well aware of Hillary emails for years: as well as everyone elses emails:
they didn't believe they should be collecting records then as the required
by the rules. Hillary is being single out for political attack only!

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
49. The report is very specific about what rules she broke, about how she lied and misled.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:17 PM
May 2016

And how little others realized the extent of her wrong-doing.

I suggest you re-read it.


"Secretary Clinton: By Secretary Clinton’s tenure, the Department’s guidance was considerably
more detailed and more sophisticated. Beginning in late 2005 and continuing through 2011, the
Department revised the FAM and issued various memoranda specifically discussing the
obligation to use Department systems in most circumstances and identifying the risks of not
doing so. Secretary Clinton’s cybersecurity practices accordingly must be evaluated in light of
these more comprehensive directives.

Throughout Secretary Clinton’s tenure, the FAM stated that normal day-to-day operations
should be conducted on an authorized AIS,147 yet OIG found no evidence that the Secretary
requested or obtained guidance or approval to conduct official business via a personal email
account on her private server.


According to the current CIO and Assistant Secretary for Diplomatic Security, Secretary Clinton had an obligation to discuss using her personal email account to conduct official business with their offices, who in turn would have attempted to
provide her with approved and secured means that met her business needs.
However, according
to these officials, DS and IRM did not—and would not—approve her exclusive reliance on a
personal email account to conduct Department business, because of the restrictions in the FAM
and the security risks in doing so.

In addition to interviewing current and former officials in DS and IRM, OIG interviewed other
senior Department officials with relevant knowledge who served under Secretary Clinton,
including the Under Secretary for Management, who supervises both DS and IRM; current and
former Executive Secretaries; and attorneys within the Office of the Legal Adviser. These officials
all stated that they were not asked to approve or otherwise review the use of Secretary Clinton’s
server and that they had no knowledge of approval or review by other Department staff.
These
officials also stated that they were unaware of the scope or extent of Secretary Clinton’s use of a
personal email account, though many of them sent emails to the Secretary on this account.

Secretary Clinton’s Chief of Staff also testified before the House Select Committee on Benghazi
that she was unaware of anyone being consulted about the Secretary’s exclusive use of a personal email
address.15

During Secretary Clinton’s tenure, the FAM also instructed employees that they were expected
to use approved, secure methods to transmit SBU information and that, if they needed to
transmit SBU information outside the Department’s OpenNet network on a regular basis to nonDepartmental
addresses, they should request a solution from IRM.148 However, OIG found no
evidence that Secretary Clinton ever contacted IRM to request such a solution, despite the fact
that emails exchanged on her personal account regularly contained information marked as SBU


Similarly, the FAM contained provisions requiring employees who process SBU information on
their own devices
to ensure that appropriate administrative, technical, and physical safeguards
are maintained to protect the confidentiality and integrity of records and to ensure encryption
of SBU information with products certified by NIST.149 With regard to encryption, Secretary
Clinton’s website states that “robust protections were put in place and additional upgrades and
techniques employed over time as they became available, including consulting and employing
third party experts.”150 Although this report does not address the safety or security of her
system, DS and IRM reported to OIG that Secretary Clinton never demonstrated to them that her
private server or mobile device met minimum information security requirements specified by FISMA and the FAM.


Secretary Clinton used mobile devices to conduct official business using the personal email
account on her private server extensively, as illustrated by the 55,000 pages of material making
up the approximately 30,000 emails she provided to the Department in December 2014.
Throughout Secretary Clinton’s tenure, the FAM stated that normal day-to-day operations
should be conducted on an authorized AIS,147 yet OIG found no evidence that the Secretary
requested or obtained guidance or approval
to conduct official business via a personal email
account on her private server.


etc etc etc

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
15. Why bother indicting? Just ship her right to jail anyway.
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:26 PM
May 2016

There are a few people licking their lips over a frogmarch moment, hoping for their own Fitzmas.

Time for change

(13,714 posts)
17. What is the point of posts like this, that proclaim Hillary the nominee?
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:28 PM
May 2016

Is it posted as news, or just to gloat that (in your opinion) your candidate will be the nominee? If it is the latter, do you realize that the only purpose it serves is to anger Bernie supporters and make them less likely to want to vote for someone whose supporters show such arrogance?

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
43. No, the real questions is Can the American people stand up against Fascism
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:14 PM
May 2016

that Trump is selling.

All in it together

(275 posts)
32. You can't or won't see it any other way?
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:49 PM
May 2016

We need a candidate that follows the legal requirements of government freedom of information act for one thing

she's reckless about cybersecurity and unwilling to be transparent about her money connections and speeches.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
36. Well she could end up the indicted nominee
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:09 PM
May 2016

That would be a disaster.

Your second assertion is likely true, the first, that she will it be indicted is just idle speculation. One assertion has verifiable evidence to justify it. The other has nothing

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