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dana_b

(11,546 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:07 PM May 2016

Hold on! It MAY be happening.. Sanders camp: Discussions underway for Trump debate

Last edited Thu May 26, 2016, 03:34 PM - Edit history (1)

May 26, 2016, 12:51 pm
Sanders camp: Discussions underway for Trump debate
By Jonathan Easley

Bernie Sanders’s campaign manager says “back-channel conversations” are underway with Donald Trump’s staff about setting up a bipartisan debate between the two presidential candidates.

“I think it would benefit voters from across the country and I have to believe it would be one of the most-watched debates in presidential politics,” Jeff Weaver said Thursday on MSNBC.

“Let's see if he has the courage to go one-on-one with Bernie Sanders,” he added.

The Sanders campaign is seeking to ramp up pressure on Trump to follow through on his Wednesday night remarks to late-night talk-show host Jimmy Kimmel.

Trump, the presumptive GOP nominee, said he’d be open to debating Sanders if the proceeds went to charity.

Sanders’s camp seized on the remarks and is trying to pressure the businessman to follow through.

“The senator wants to do it,” Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs told The Hill. “We’ll see if Trump meant what he said.”

The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

A Trump official earlier Thursday characterized the mogul's remarks as “tongue-in-cheek.”

Still, the official said Trump’s team is considering the possibility after the remarks have received so much media attention.

Trump adviser Sarah Huckabee Sanders told MSNBC on Thursday that Trump is “happy” to debate Sanders “at any point.”

More at link

http://linkis.com/thehill.com/blogs/ba/rzg28

Edit - IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!!! Just posted by Bernie at 12:30 PDT

Bernie Sanders ?@BernieSanders 12s12 seconds ago
I am delighted that @realDonaldTrump has agreed to debate. Let’s do it in the biggest stadium possible.
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Hold on! It MAY be happening.. Sanders camp: Discussions underway for Trump debate (Original Post) dana_b May 2016 OP
Sanders may be going into this with honest intentions, but if tRump does it, he'll just be using BS SFnomad May 2016 #1
Or he will do what he has done with every debate so far... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #4
We can trash HRC here Skink May 2016 #5
It's not going to happen. The Trump campaign has rejected Bernie's overtures. nt Cali_Democrat May 2016 #2
It doesn't hurt to keep pushing and making him look like he's too chicken to do it. cali May 2016 #3
It just makes BS, the loser of the Democratic Primary, look desperate for attention n/t SFnomad May 2016 #7
Lol. He's hardly lacking for attention cali May 2016 #10
Makes Sanders look desperate. NCTraveler May 2016 #16
It makes Trump look dishonest! DianaForRussFeingold May 2016 #17
But this could help Clinton Prism May 2016 #18
This is why I was looking forward to this debate Txbluedog May 2016 #19
Sarah Huckabee Sanders is a Trump adviser? oberliner May 2016 #6
Yep, the very same. TwilightZone May 2016 #8
Wow oberliner May 2016 #26
Guess so dana_b May 2016 #9
Kick! MelungeonWoman May 2016 #11
thanks dana_b May 2016 #13
It would be unprecedented, frazzled May 2016 #12
So we here in California shouldn't get a debate? dana_b May 2016 #14
We have this thing called a TeeVee Box here Retrograde May 2016 #24
nvm - done with you n/t dana_b May 2016 #25
This whole election cycle is unprecedented. Why stop now? I'm sure more precedents will occur by Nov TheBlackAdder May 2016 #22
"I was just joking! Okay, okay, we really could debate...nah! I was joking again!" randome May 2016 #15
Soooooo Presidential. KittyWampus May 2016 #27
I'll be so happy if this happens. DookDook May 2016 #20
me too but I think he's chickening out dana_b May 2016 #21
K&R Trump is a phony...shyster - I would love to see Bernie debate him. DianaForRussFeingold May 2016 #23
LOL! CNN says it's on ... barrow-wight May 2016 #28
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
1. Sanders may be going into this with honest intentions, but if tRump does it, he'll just be using BS
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:09 PM
May 2016

tRump would just be using the opportunity to get free airtime, a big audience and the ability to attack Secretary Clinton and not have her their to defend herself.

BS would have two options, both of them losers ... he could join in and attack Secretary Clinton as well, which would simply show the entire Democratic Party that BS is a lie and that he doesn't care about party at all ... or he could defend Clinton, which would make the BS cheerleaders lose their minds and would make their heads explode. I personally would hope for the second option.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
4. Or he will do what he has done with every debate so far...
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:12 PM
May 2016

And not personally attack anyone and will talk about the issues. Should Trump attack Clinton, I cannot see Sanders not defending her.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. Makes Sanders look desperate.
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:48 PM
May 2016

You understand politics. You get that no matter if you admit it or not.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
18. But this could help Clinton
Thu May 26, 2016, 02:13 PM
May 2016

I'm pasting a post I did earlier. But the more I think on it, the more I like it. Thoughts?

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I know one angle of this story that partisans will enhance - Bernie will show he's formidable against Trump. Clinton supporters will declare him delusional and presumptuous.

But there's another angle here worth exploring for both Bernie and Hillary supporters.

The party is fractured right now. There are many on the Left and left-leaning Independents who love Bernie but are chilly at best towards Clinton.

But what if Sanders goes toe to toe with Trump? Then the focus shifts. If his supporters, especially Millennials, see Bernie painting Trump as the ultimate enemy in a debate, they may find shifting to Clinton much more comfortable.

He could bring reticent or disillusioned supporters into the NeverTrump camp by nakedly exposing Trump's danger.

So, it feels kind of win-win to me. Bernie has the potential to gain further influence in the party, but he'll also be uniting the party by singling out the common enemy.

Part of me wants to say, "Going after the Republican nominee should be the Democratic nominee's prerogative." I want to go, ooh, poor form. But . . .

But if the goal is unity and shifting focus, this could work well for Clinton in the general.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
19. This is why I was looking forward to this debate
Thu May 26, 2016, 02:21 PM
May 2016

It would have gone a long way towards showing Bernie or Bust people who the real enemy is

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
26. Wow
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:46 PM
May 2016

You would think a pious man of God like Mike Huckabee (and presumably his family) would want nothing to do with Trump.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
12. It would be unprecedented,
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:42 PM
May 2016

and highly presumptive, for a Democratic candidate for the nomination (especially the second-place candidate) to debate the Republican nominee before the end of the primary season and the Convention. It would even be unprecedented for the frontrunner or presumptive nominee to do so.

The Democratic and Republican nominees do not debate until after the two conventions are completed.

Can you imagine if Hillary Clinton had agreed in late May 2008 to debate John McCain? Or even if Obama had? But never discount Bernie Sanders's push his face on the air to get some free time. I think it's shameful that he would even consider such a thing. But a lot of people likes 'em their renegades.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
14. So we here in California shouldn't get a debate?
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:46 PM
May 2016

NY, MI, NV, etc. all get one but not the state with the largest electorate?

Bernie WANTED to debate Hillary but she refused. That's on her. So at this point I definitely think that he should just do what he needs/wants to do.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
24. We have this thing called a TeeVee Box here
Thu May 26, 2016, 03:57 PM
May 2016

that lets you see events that happen tens - if not hundreds - of miles away! Even after they happen! And I hear these new-fangled internet tubes the kids are talking about can be used to get videos of important events!

Seriously, while it would be nice to see candidates spend more time in this state, at this stage another debate between Sanders and Clinton isn't going to change anyone's mind. And even if they did agree to one in the scant time remaining, due to the sheer physical size of the state most of the population would be excluded no matter where they held it.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. "I was just joking! Okay, okay, we really could debate...nah! I was joking again!"
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:46 PM
May 2016

"Seriously, in all huge seriousness, do you want to debate? Fine by me. Nah! Ah! Gotcha!"
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
27. Soooooo Presidential.
Thu May 26, 2016, 06:05 PM
May 2016

LOLZ! Two extreme figures playing stupid games.

It would have been hilarious watching the two of them flailing their arms around at each other.

barrow-wight

(744 posts)
28. LOL! CNN says it's on ...
Thu May 26, 2016, 06:22 PM
May 2016
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/26/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-debate/index.html

The best part is this comment:

"It should be in a big arena somewhere. And we can have a lot of fun with it. I'd love to debate Bernie" he said. "The problem with debating Bernie is he's going to lose. Because honestly his system is rigged. Just like our system is rigged."

1) He recognizes that Bernie is going to lose.

2) If the system is rigged on both sides, and Trump is saying that Bernie will lose because it's rigged, isn't he essentially also saying that he only won because it's rigged. Nice.

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