completely.

It's awful the way the Hillary team has tried to tar Bernie supporters as racist.

Have some well-meaning white Bernie supporters been racially clueless or racially insensitive? Yes. But are they any worse than Hillary Clinton or her white supporters? No. Really the Clinton side has been worse because of the way they used race as a wedge to divide inside the Democratic coalition. That type of politics is very dangerous.

Well then you must be some boy crazy idiot who's going to hell for not voting based on sex.



I'm telling you since day one, desperation is the hallmark of her campaign

These days they call people like that 'tryhards' and they are NOT respected

weird, that, I don't have any extra money, and I haven't gotten fine hair yet. Imagine that.

And, I still don't have any of those either. I also only like Sanders because of the vow I made when I was born into a white middle class family & don't care about any social justice issues, I just like Sanders because I hate minorities, the elderly and women.

someone didn't get the "beam me up Scottie" reference.

The truth hurts.

"who need to go vote for Trump"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1962881

Oh, and the campaign through Brock.

I thought they were showing a few days ago when the OP was prattling on about their trust fund and prep school trips to Spain.

Ah the life of the one percent...

Now that's a foolish comment.

"That is what Hillary supporters have marched out over and over ad nauseam"

Show me one place I have "marched it out"?

Seems to be some projection going on here.

And if you say you haven't, I'll take you at your word, but it's nuts to deny that Hillary supporters and Brock haven't done it.

Truly a horrid statement you are trying to make. Let's be clear, pass the buck all you want, it's your broad brush.

Are there specific policies he has or things he has done that have led to him being
'rejected'? I would appreciate it if you could expand on this statement.

he still got crushed when it came to the black vote

For example, blacks in New York overwhelmingly supported Hillary over Bernie and that primary was held much later in the calendar.

You said there is a good reason. I am just looking for specific examples that you can supply as reasons. I just honestly would like to know.

Gonna be hard to find an OP today that is this ridiculous.
So congrats, I guess.

And how sexist it was that the mean bad men excluded her so sexistly?

Stiff competition around here...

Considering how juries currently work. Calling the op out for what it is would garner an immediate hide.

I'm reasonably sure that the ratio of white racism in both ranks happens to be equal and should Hillary's voters have been struggling for the minority vote and making awkward and sometimes racist overtures toward POC, (which they are of course capable of) they too would have been called out. It didn't happen that way, but thats more to do with luck, than any inherent 'purity' of the white base of either candidate's supporters.

They both suck and are great, to probably similar degrees.

What I've noted however, is how thin skinned both are in regard to racism and how poorly that is generally understood even on a supposed enlightend 'progressive' site. I'm sure the racist Bernie supporters have specifically been called out as his 'Bro' contingent' who are often clumsy and privileged and dumb in addition to those who deny their existence, rather than his supporters as a whole.

Here's hoping that following the primaries all of these threads talking specifically about racism are less about hurt white feelings but about solutions to the actual issue within white communities and beyond.

And white people who are "Not meeeee! I'm different!" repeating it.

There's a long discussion to be had about why social justice needs the white male villain, and the unrecognized hypocrisy in blaming all society's ills on a particular racial/gender profile. Not that it'll ever happen here without wailing and rending of clothes.

But this entire cycle has really seen the rise of the social justice warrior stereotypes. BernieBros is the apotheosis of it. White men are evil. We need white villains.

Even though plenty of women are for Bernie and plenty of PoCs and LGBTers support Bernie. The meme has always, always been white privileged males.

Privilege is another word that just needs to go at this point. "If you don't agree with me, you're privileged."

Because the working class and poor who prefer Bernie's policies and are tired of seeing their jobs and wages shipped overseas are just the most privileged people on earth.

It's not that it's offensive. It's just boring. Now every idiot knows the keywords and evokes them at great length and tiring volume. "I need to win this argument. Hmm. I know! Privileeeeeggggeeee!" like it's a bad Mel Gibson film.

And it makes discussion of serious issues just impossible. Debate is weaponized. Agree, or you're a terrible person!

Ok.

I'm a white male and don't feel particularly victimized either. I almost feel vaguely insulted. A hundred incredibly serious issues are facing us, and the best you can muster is a bunch of nonsensical brain mush with some phrases you read on the internets?

Oh. Lord. You're wasting both our time.

Neither does Jesse Jackson, apparently. He couldn't be bothered to endorse and vocally support Bernie, one of the three white officeholders who endorsed him for both his presidential runs.

I voted for Jesse Jackson twice, in '84 and '88. I'm disappointed he was a no-show in 2016. He should have been out there defending Bernie against charges that he is a racist, or a newbie to the cause of civil rights.

So much disdain by black people toward 'white progs' on Twitter has really been a wake-up call for me, for several months now. So much gleefulness that the white guy from the white state has been taught a lesson, and white progs given a good slap. When did white progressives become the enemy?

So much contempt for Occupy Wall Street and their outrage over millions of homes stolen by banks via mortgage fraud, dismissed as 'white people's problems.' Ditto for people upset about drowning in student loan debt -- just 'white people's problems.'

Leaders of the Congressional Black Caucus completely mischaracterized Bernie's record of support for civil rights. It's fine to endorse a different candidate, but to call Bernie a 'new friend' when he has a 20+year history of 100% ratings from the NAACP is real deceit.

A few tweets from Bernie supporters providing links to his civil rights record are described as attacks, as if whites aren't allowed to converse with blacks on Twitter. All nasty comments about Hillary are attributed to Bernie fans, when a mere 30 seconds of reading the profile of the tweeter shows it's from a Trump supporter. People can write articles about the tweets they've received, completely mis-attributing the source, and get them published in the Washington Post.

I'm gloomy and depressed. We can only make progress if we can find a way to work together and fight for progress for everyone. I don't see it happening today.

I don't give two shakes what they say or think. I don't even care enough to argue with them.

We thought we were Italian/Irish/Scott and a little Choctaw...we found out we are Italian Greek East and West Europeon, Great Britian, Ireland, Jewish, North African, Iberian, Middle Eastern...(differing percentages)...so stop the race crap! You might be surprised just who you really are.

People of color seem to reject the Sanders campaign in general,
I don't know why mostly white voters flock to Sanders.
In our caucus almost all the people of color were in HRC group.
White voters in Sanders, a lot of males most younger people, young and couples
just the way it was.
You guys seem to get the younger voters
is there something ageist about that?

considering that neither Clinton ever lifted a finger to help PoC,
and are responsible for policies that have deeply harmed PoC.

The policies and programs that Bernie advocates would HELP ALL People, including PoC.

with this OP. That's all I'll say because like someone else said in this thread, it's hard to say what you truly feel without risking a hide. Holy crap.

Or are ignorant and ill informed or just vote for celebrities.

A lot of stupid shit has been said here by alleged "supporters". IMHO those aren't supporters, they are DETRACTORS. They don't help their candidate, they DETRACT from their candidate.

There are a handful on each side who detract from their chosen candidates.

I credit that supporter vs detractors analysis to Bluenorthwest, btw.

but you can be saved.

Convert to Hillary.

The rest are low information internet starved Stockholm Syndrome victims.