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May 26, 2016, 08:40 am
Poll: Clinton, Sanders in a dead heat in Calif.
By Mark Hensch
Democratic presidential candidates Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are in a virtual dead heat in California, a new poll shows.
Clinton has 46 percent support to Sanders's 44 percent, according to The Public Policy Institute of California survey released Wednesday.
When the poll results are filtered down to just registered Democrats, Clinton leads Sanders, 49 percent to 41 percent.
California's June 7 contest is an open primary, meaning voters who are not registered Democrats may participate. The state offers 475 pledged delegates the largest total of any state.
There is little gender gap in the poll totals. Sanders had 46 percent of men, with Clinton garnering 42 percent. Among women, Clinton led with 49 percent support to Sanders's 42 percent...
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/281331-poll-clinton-sanders-deadlocked-in-california
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thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)I think Bernie has a good chance of winning CA... though it will be awfully hard to win it as big as he really needs it to be if he wants a serious shot at persuading super delegates (short of additional Hillary bombshells).
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)And arguably 70+%, as New Jersey will be won by Clinton. 44 is a long way from 70.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)They don't even try to hide the bias any more. Their lead-in was, "Hillary Clinton maintains her lead in California but the race is tightening." They sounded very somber.
I hate the establishment media. We have corporate censorship in this country.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)And the crosstabs are off in this poll anyway. Clinton leads among whites by 6% but only among Hispanics by 2% which makes no sense.
At 46% non-white, Sanders isn't going to win here. That shovel is California and Hillary is about to swing it hard.
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)See my post below for the math.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And I take all polling with Everest sized grain of salt
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)290 White, 134 Latino, 125 Other, 549 Total
Whites: 47/41 Hillary +6
Latinos: 52/43 Hillary +9
"Other" would have to be heavily Sanders to get to 46/44 overall, at least 60/40 or higher. The poll doesn't provide a breakdown, but there's no way Sanders is beating Clinton 60/40 with African Americans and Asians, who make up most of California's non-white/non-Latino 20%.
The crosstabs also don't match up. Household income, for example, matches, but the totals for college/noncollege show Hillary +5. Errors like this exist in many of the totals. They vary from the +2 indicated in the total to +7 or higher.
538 is basically treating it as an outlier, giving it less than 20% the weighting of the SurveyUSA poll from the same timeframe, which shows Hillary up 57/39.
Link to poll data: http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/other/Crosstabs_LikelyVoters0516.pdf
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)I also notice that PPIC has had the tightest margins between these candidates, consistently.
SurveyUSA released a poll today and it's 57-39 Hillary-Bernie.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Clinton may well lose 36 - 54 come June. Oh wait: that doesn't yet take into account the usual upsurge we see Sanders make in the last week or so. 36 - 64 might happen. Which would bury her like Sanders can (one day in November) bury Trump.