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StayFrosty

(237 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:15 PM May 2016

We really are going to let Trump win aren't we?

There aren't enough racist assholes in this country for him to win outright

The only way Trump can possibly win is if WE let him win, and by the looks of it I think that is whats going to happen.

Bernie or busters , Iraq vote, emails, Hillary or busters, all of this infighting will let Trump win.

Both sides need to chill the fuck out and get serious about this.

A man who has said he would build a wall, deport all immigrants and ban a whole religion from entering the US, is one election away from the White House

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We really are going to let Trump win aren't we? (Original Post) StayFrosty May 2016 OP
"We"? Nope, it won't be "we". Autumn May 2016 #1
It'll be the Not Hillary Party. baldguy May 2016 #25
The Not Hillary Party as you call us have not pushed a candidate that is weak. Autumn May 2016 #31
If she's so weak, how come she beat God's Own Candidate, St Bernie of Sanders? baldguy May 2016 #34
Do you need the list? IdaBriggs May 2016 #41
A*fucking*men Sister Ida Matariki May 2016 #42
You win the thread! DJ13 May 2016 #43
in 19 days those who would be okay with Trump beating Clinton will all leave DU for 6 months. geek tragedy May 2016 #2
+1 joshcryer May 2016 #4
The convention is in 19 days? gravityspy May 2016 #5
. gollygee May 2016 #8
no, the voting will be over, and we will know who the nominee is, and that's when Skinner geek tragedy May 2016 #9
And in that bubble, without support from those you timmymoff May 2016 #7
Don't let one or two posters at DU tell you what to do. randome May 2016 #12
I heard it from DWS timmymoff May 2016 #38
Welcome back!!! I am so glad you're here again Number23 May 2016 #13
good to be back. Just have to be extra careful until the geek tragedy May 2016 #14
To think, the Great Enema happens right after DC gets their chance to vote! MohRokTah May 2016 #19
the Great Enema could happen earlier if Bernie surprises everyone geek tragedy May 2016 #20
JUNE 14 MFM008 May 2016 #26
Oh Yeah rbrnmw May 2016 #39
When the democratic party nomiated a very weak candidate nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #3
They blame us for not eating the nice meal they prepared, and they are indignant that it has GoneFishin May 2016 #30
When Hillary supporters "start watching their tone", we might come around Chasstev365 May 2016 #6
There aren't enough bobs for you to be making demands Ohioblue22 May 2016 #11
Remember that. Hillary generated more PUMAs than there are Bernie-or-busters Vote2016 May 2016 #16
Except the PUMA movement turned out to be really small mythology May 2016 #22
and in the end they came out for Obama MFM008 May 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author randome May 2016 #10
We? I didn't vote for the HRC Titanic Vote2016 May 2016 #15
Don't blame Bernie voters.. WE AREN'T the ones supporting the candidate who LOSES TO TRUMP. AzDar May 2016 #17
It looks like it. LWolf May 2016 #18
It seems that a lot of HRC supporters are sadoldgirl May 2016 #21
If you think your coercive tactics is the way to get people to do what you want them to do, then... AZ Progressive May 2016 #23
We? Speak for yourself only, please. MineralMan May 2016 #24
She should debate Skink May 2016 #28
You nominate a criminal, you get what comes of that. Matt_in_STL May 2016 #29
Support Clinton, expect a Trump presidency. bvf May 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #33
I can't chill the fuck out and like or trust Hillary all at the same time Miles Archer May 2016 #35
What about Dear Leader? tazkcmo May 2016 #36
NO. We are five months out. We are hot right now. oldandhappy May 2016 #37
I've decided to just eat my popcorn and enjoy the show... ecstatic May 2016 #40

Autumn

(45,103 posts)
31. The Not Hillary Party as you call us have not pushed a candidate that is weak.
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:30 PM
May 2016

The culprits who have pushed a flawed candidate loaded down with enough baggage to bring an elephant to it's knees would be the democratic party. If Hillary loses that is all on them, and Hillary

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
41. Do you need the list?
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:14 PM
May 2016

It starts with lots of money, a narrative about how she was inevitable with hundreds of super delegates before the voting started, epic name recognition, no publicity for debates, no national GOTV effort (first time in ever), then some very "unusual" patterns of problems with fraudulent voter registration switches, and magical exit polls that suddenly are only accurate for Republicans/not Democrats.

The Bernie team has built their organization IN SPITE OF DNC obstructionism, including reports of sabotage by people employed by the Bernie campaign who were collecting money from Clinton Foundation grants in the first set of primaries.

The dirty tricks were also interesting: Bernie the Civil Rights Protester suddenly portrayed as a racist, the guy who has stood 100% for women's reproductive rights proclaimed a misogynist, the social justice advocate invited to a conference at the Vatican suddenly in Pope-Gate, and of course the Nevada riots that weren't actually riots by any definition of the word (just off the top of my head).

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. in 19 days those who would be okay with Trump beating Clinton will all leave DU for 6 months.
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:18 PM
May 2016

And there will be much rejoicing from the rest of us.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. no, the voting will be over, and we will know who the nominee is, and that's when Skinner
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

has said he'll put this place into General Election mode, meaning no more attempts to argue for the electoral defeat of the presumptive nominee.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910453#post1

And that is as it should be.

Clinton will be the presumptive nominee on June 8, but they'll keep it an extra week to let DC have their say I guess.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
7. And in that bubble, without support from those you
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

and her campaign disparaged, you will be required to work tirelessly, for we were told that you don't need us. So when you say WE be sure you actually mean Team Hillary and her supporters. Don't sweat it she is the most vetted candidate evah, what could possibly go wrong? A spoonful of accountability will help the I told you so's go down. Have no fear, you earned this. It's yours.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. Don't let one or two posters at DU tell you what to do.
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:43 PM
May 2016

Your vote for the Democratic Party would be welcomed by most of us.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
38. I heard it from DWS
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:44 PM
May 2016

and other clinton surrogates and pundits as well. I have until November to decide what my private action will be.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. good to be back. Just have to be extra careful until the
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:45 PM
May 2016

Great Enema restores this place to its purpose.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
19. To think, the Great Enema happens right after DC gets their chance to vote!
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:02 PM
May 2016

It really should be after June 7 since everybody and their brother will be calling Hillary Clinton the nominee, but Skinner is a really nice guy and always gives the benefit of the doubt.

We can wait an extra week, and for those who can't, Markos started banning on March 15, so there is always DailyKos as a hangout if it gets too insane during the final week.

For my part I have over 500 in the ignore box and will spend Tuesday, June 7, unleashing them from the box just to watch and laugh as it all comes to an end.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. the Great Enema could happen earlier if Bernie surprises everyone
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:06 PM
May 2016

and says he'll accept the will of the voters and support the nominee after Clinton clinches the pledged delegate win

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
30. They blame us for not eating the nice meal they prepared, and they are indignant that it has
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:28 PM
May 2016

nothing to do with the fact that they put shit in the sandwiches.

 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
16. Remember that. Hillary generated more PUMAs than there are Bernie-or-busters
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

Remember that when you hear some sniveling whiners complain that they picked a candidate who was neither able to unite the party nor able to withstand the rigors of a general election campaign against a bigoted xenophobic orangutan with impulse control issues.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
22. Except the PUMA movement turned out to be really small
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:13 PM
May 2016

During the primary season, at least one poll showed 40% of Clinton supporters wouldn't vote for Obama, but it was over 80% were going to vote for Obama after the Democratic convention just a few months later.

Response to StayFrosty (Original post)

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
18. It looks like it.
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:58 PM
May 2016

We don't have enough Democrats who want to nominate someone who can actually beat him, so I guess you're correct.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
21. It seems that a lot of HRC supporters are
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:12 PM
May 2016

happily looking forward to a second Clinton
impeachment. They don't talk about it , because
they just want her to win at any cost, because
the status quo is more important than anything
else.

And if Trump should win, it has been the result of
choosing the worst and weakest candidate the party
could not only find, but it has tried and is trying to
ram down the peoples throat.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
23. If you think your coercive tactics is the way to get people to do what you want them to do, then...
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:16 PM
May 2016

you are pretty damn foolish and stupid, or maybe you are really a Trump supporter that wants to aggravate Bernie supporters by pretending to be a Hillary supporter.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
29. You nominate a criminal, you get what comes of that.
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:25 PM
May 2016

Nobody's fault but those who fell for the constant lies.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
32. Support Clinton, expect a Trump presidency.
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:31 PM
May 2016

It's been said for months, and it couldn't be any fucking clearer.

If Clinton supporters are blind to this, it's nobody's fault but their own. Nothing can change that.

Response to StayFrosty (Original post)

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
35. I can't chill the fuck out and like or trust Hillary all at the same time
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:39 PM
May 2016

I don't have the answer for you. I wish I had.

I've announced many times on DU what I intend to do if and when Clinton becomes the nominee.

I'll still be on DU, and I'll post in GD and the Lounge, and I won't participate in any threads that have the name "Hillary" in them.

It's pretty simple...it's Skinner's Website, he gets to decide what gets posted here and what doesn't, and I respect that.

It's unfortunate that it's come down to Clinton or Trump.

I'm not a Trump supporter, so I have no fear of being part of the "great enema" or whatever childish label people want to put on the mass purging that I'm confident is right around the corner.

But I'm also not a Clinton supporter, and I know that the way to retain my membership I have to follow the advice that many of our moms gave us..."If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." I don't believe a lack of support for Clinton is a show of support for Trump. Life just isn't that black and white. I know a lot of people are going to disagree with that, and that's their right. Whether we picked Clinton or the DNC picked her for us, nothing's going to make her "my candidate."

So what I'll have to say about Clinton on DU after Skinner "calls it" will be "nothing at all," and moms all over America will smile.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
36. What about Dear Leader?
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:41 PM
May 2016

What's her role in persuading voters to vote for her? So this isn't about Sec Clinton being a progressive who gets things done? She says she is but then why aren't progressives flocking to her? What about those law and order types? Certainly she appeals to those as she's such a stickler for the rule of law being a lawyer and all.

Hmmm, turns out 11,000,000 isn't enough votes to win a GE.


A woman who has said she dodged sniper fire, claimed to be a progressive a week before pleading guilty to being a moderate and claimed for a year that her private, unsecured email server was allowed is one election away from the White House.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
37. NO. We are five months out. We are hot right now.
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:50 PM
May 2016

After the conventions lots of things will take new directions.

ecstatic

(32,707 posts)
40. I've decided to just eat my popcorn and enjoy the show...
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:55 PM
May 2016

Today I had an epiphany during Trump's presser: the media is NEVER going to hold him accountable, which means neither of our candidates have a shot in hell of beating him. The media flocks to every event Trump holds... He gets millions of dollars worth of free coverage every day... No other candidate stands a chance. I hope I'm wrong.

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