Bernie is a threat to their Establishment DLCers. I'm glad he is not willing to give in. Time to donate again to Sanders and Canova.

I'll always remember which progressives didn't stand up for the progressive candidate.

...because he didn't endorse YOUR candidate.

they must protect the status-quo

People might expect them to actually do something similar. We can't have that.

Bernie shouldn't count on

There's going to be a bit of awkwardness when Sanders returns in the fall.

Which will ultimately hurt him at home. Seems voters don't care much for Senators who aren't effective.

I'm laughing. Getting along isn't exactly the point. And who knows, he may retired. And start a third party. Now what would that do for your DNC chances in the future?

Senators prize committee assignments and the chair when their party is in the majority. The Democratic party treated Sanders as if he was an actual party member, acknowledging his seniority when he agreed to caucus with them and giving him committee assignments as warranted.

If he actively subverts the party's White House bid, he can kiss the Budget and VA seats goodbye, and say hello to the Subcommittee on Tourism, if he's lucky.

other than a few Hill fans. They are irrelevant

But still politics as usual for most of them. Esp. Brown.

by the donald--and bernie fell for it--hook, line, and sinker!!


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An angry old socialist and his wife in hiding...rejected by democrats...and his ego can't and won't are it....

unless they also condemned Hillary for reneging on her promise to debate Sanders before the California primary. Your woman is a liar and a fuck-up. Live with it.

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It doesn't matter if there have been 100 debates, this is what she agreed to and her reneging just reinforces her lack of integrity and ability to be trusted. Sorry your candidate is a liar, but that's what you've got.

She has proven she is a liar and will only keep her word if it's politically expedient or convenient for her.

That, coupled with her lack of judgment about national security with her communications, should give anybody pause about what kind of President she will be.

....are on the wrong end of the delegate count.

That wasn't a promise worth keeping to her. She got what she wanted and fuck everyone else. Definitely a pattern with that one. What else do you figure she lies about? She earns that 19% honesty rating and obviously wants to wear it as a badge of honor.

nt

Just heard him mention it a bit ago.

That seems to be the entire point of it. Glad to see so many are calling out the desperate attempts for free publicity exactly what they are.

Those of us who support do so because of his message. So what's the message your candidate is campaigning on? Do you know? I bet you don't. She just wants to be President.

but because he is LOSING. And that's what all of this is about and nothing else.

Even Trump was able to punk Sanders spectacularly because of his desperate need for attention and attempts to to delay the inevitable. I know you guys are embarrassed as hell about all of this but attacking everybody else won't change a thing.

Wasn't he the guy who refused to endorse Obama in 2012?

Manchin is the worst of the conservative Democrats. The new Joe Lieberman or Zell Miller.

One of the most progressive politicians in America. It is now officially a cult of personality.

They should have bigger things to worry about---

like being poised to nominate a candidate
whom the FBI is poised to indict.

She is free to debate them.

It's a new world. Not the 1990s.

I'm still gobsmacked by this whole thing, particularly by Sanders letting Trump troll him like this.

Bernie: Ok, I'll debate him.

Dems: You're destroying the party!

You are 100% correct.

Last I checked, Joseph Stalin had a better approval rating than either house of congress. There's a reason for that.

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It changed without our blessing and it can damn well change for the better or forget getting our support.

By the way, if you lose there already is a party that might suit you just fine. No need to start your own.

become a bad thing? neither of these two seem to be beholden to the party structure, which is why everyone is pissed off. the upstarts are taking the show out of the hands of the important few.

HRC went back on her word about the final debate after she got what she wanted. sometimes decisions have consequences. a true leader would have no problem going in front of the people he/she wants votes from to show why they should vote for them. they wouldn't cower in a bunker just because they had the lead.

trump will almost certainly back out anyway, which looks bad for him. if he doesn't, BS will destroy him. either way it's a win for the dem party.

This way- one can only hope- the debate can cut into those Sanders supporters who are building up an image of Trump as in any way a second option. Perhaps he can bury that. If he can't at this moment exactly reconcile with the party's march to Clinton he can possibly thwart a really stupid flow of votes toward the path of certain destruction. In that he would doing her a great favor while exposing Trump to a better dose of toxic reality than he ever had from the clown car debates.

If he fails of course that could be to Hillary's advantage as well. Some of the people's frustrations will get to be played out and settled.

I don't see a problem here.

It isn't Bernie's job to bring me to Clinton. It's Clinton's job to convince me to vote for her, and she's done an absolutely awful job of it. We JUST got over the establishment lying their asses off about Nevada to VICIOUSLY hurt Bernie and our movement, and they think he should just take it? It's just one more attempt to get progressive issues out of the spotlight. Fuck that.

As it should have. Some people think everyone is against them when in reality there are some certain truths in the world. And the response is Trumpian. If the person does not agree with them they are instantly an enemy. In one case someone said that Sherrod Brown is a DLCer and a "disappointment."

Clueless

... The event would be good for both candidates and for whoever the nominee is. If Sanders does well it will take Trump down a peg, and if Sanders does poorly it will leave Clinton clean and with ammunition.

and Bernie will NOT be the nominee. It is MATH. This is despicable.

hurts Hillary.

Good lord, do any of you realize how stupid it is to spend half your time talking about how strong Clinton is, and the other half wringing your hands about any criticisms leveled her way, as if a strong breeze would take her down?

It's more pronounced than ever.

You know, Hillary could have prevented this by NOT reneging on her promise. Cry to her.

Why do you want to HELP Trump? That is exactly what this does nothing more.