2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumState Dept. official: Clinton could not access State network without email account
State Department officials took pains to accommodate Hillary Clintons email practices as secretary, according to newly released testimony by a career agency official.
Clinton was offered a stand-alone computer near her office that would let her access the Internet without entering a password or logging into the departments network as other employees are required to do, the official said.
The official, Lewis A. Lukens, executive director of Clintons executive secretariat from 2008 to 2011, said he was told the proposal was declined because Clinton was not adept or not used to checking her emails on a desktop. However, Lukens said, Clinton was very comfortable using a BlackBerry even though she would have to leave her office to use the device due to security protocols.
Lukenss testimony on May 18 came in the first of six depositions scheduled until late June of current and former State Department and top Clinton aides in a civil lawsuit probing whether Clintons exclusive use of a private email server while secretary from 2009 to 2013 thwarted federal open-records laws.
The Lukens transcript was released Thursday, one day after State Department Inspector General Steve A. Linick issued a highly critical, 83-page report on Clintons email practices. The report concluded that Clinton failed to seek legal approval for the server arrangement and that, if she had, it would not have been granted because of security risks.
Clinton allies had braced for the IG report and findings from a pending FBI investigation into whether the email setup mishandled classified information or violated other federal laws.
However, the ongoing depositions appear likely to keep a spotlight on the matter that Clinton has tried to put to rest in her presidential campaign.
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On Friday, Clintons former chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, is to give sworn testimony in the lawsuit brought by the conservative legal advocacy group Judicial Watch. The lawsuit concerns the groups 2013 public records request for information about the employment arrangement of Millss deputy, Huma Abedin.
In a statement Thursday, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) said that IG report makes clear that Secretary Clinton and a number of other former Department officials have not been truthful with the American people and failed to turn over certain emails from personal email accounts.
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In his testimony, Lukens, a Foreign Service officer for 27 years who oversaw 110 employees providing administrative support to the secretary, said he never recalled speaking about Clintons email address or use of a personal BlackBerry with a direct subordinate, John Bentel, in charge of the secretariats electronic communications.
Lukens said Mills did not ask for Clinton to have a computer in her office, and that he did not believe a State email account was set up for Clinton because she did not ask for one.
At that point, as far as I knew, there was no requirement for her to be connected to our system, Lukens said.
Lukens did not think it unusual because, he said, Im not aware of former secretaries of state having email addresses on our system.
In its report, the inspector generals office noted that long-standing systemic weaknesses in department handling of electronic records that spanned several secretaries, and noted that Colin Powell when secretary used a personal email account for official business.
Lukens said he assumed Clinton used a commercial email service and did not know of her private server until it was reported last year. He proposed a stand-alone computer for Clinton to access the Internet to check her emails because mobile phones are not allowed in the secretarys office suite.
Lukens initially said he wanted to make it easier for Clinton to bypass the departments computer network so she could log on with fewer passwords, before acknowledging that Clinton could not access the system without a department email account.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/state-dept-official-clinton-could-not-access-state-network-without-email-account/2016/05/26/0926c552-236c-11e6-9e7f-57890b612299_story.html
The transcripts are available for download if you search.
antigop
(12,778 posts)How difficult is that to do?
Really?
This is basic stuff that even if you didn't know you should have the aptitude to learn.
antigop
(12,778 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts)I wasn't "adept" until someone taught me how. And I have yet to learn how to do email from my phone. It's going to take some hands-on instruction from someone who has the time.
Clinton probably had more pressing demands on her time when she went to State.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)YOU'VE GOT MAIL!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)When he talks openly about setting up a stand alone Internet connection outside of the one used at the State Dept. That will be bad. There was no reason too
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Let that sink in for a moment
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but my mom is older and she does know, after we sat down and set it up for her and walked her though it. Now I get email chain emails... downside
Arazi
(6,829 posts)It's pretty embarrassing actually
Plus it doesn't take long to learn even if we buy into Hillarys story that she couldn't use a secure computer because she didn't know how.
It's another lie by Clinton that I'm sure she never thought would be exposed imho
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)does not detract that
A.- She could be taught
and
B.- She had to take that secret briefing on cyber security..
I bet it was far more intense than my admonition about virus checkers and all that.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)It's kind of a red herring - to distract from the issue that she had a separate server set up for reasons that I think we've only speculated on so far. I don't believe she couldn't use a computer.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but assuming she did not, she could be taught in about an hour
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)She can frigging learn and not put national security information at risk. I believe she already knows how to use a computer but had other reasons for having a separate server.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The report is clear on this... and it is damning. As I said, this is the kind of stuff lawyers throw out there (she is one) and good prosecutors take the same attitude I just did. This is immaterial to the discussion.
Autumn
(45,096 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)It's not hard, and if you're the Secretary of State I would hope there's somebody around who's knowledgeable enough about computers to teach you how to check your email.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the I did not know how to, ok I get it, but the you could have been taught, and had to anyway, due to the mandatory brief
smiley
(1,432 posts)In fact it's a right-wing conspiracy to keep Hillary technologically aloof.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)daughters to help with some really technical issues like down loading but then I am not employed as the SOS or running for President.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)even if some of that gear is quite legacy
jwirr
(39,215 posts)mess. Wasn't he supposed to be upgrading the WH system.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)there are reasons for that which go beyond the speed of the processor
karynnj
(59,503 posts)This is not hard at all and she is a smart woman. It sounds like someone who has aides "to do that" for so long that she was simply too proud to let anyone walk her through how to do it.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but she could have gotten trained in an hour. It took me that long to teach my mother.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)is not telling the truth.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But at the end of the day...of all tne things that one a good prosecutor will throw away. A good defense attorney might use it is low in the list of issues
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)To turn up the volume on her phone.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)That's pretty interesting, imo. It can be ignored, but it's hard to spin.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Almost every one of them are acting like it's a new thing or something.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Or now they have to do the prologue, because the main feature is about to start.
Server Wars: Episode One
P.S. Lol, I just googled that by mistake (was thinking of Star Wars) and I had to laugh at what came up. "It's a period of poor IT security ..."
pangaia
(24,324 posts)WHAT?? Arte you kidding me?
The woman who want to be the president of the US of A doesn't know how to check email on a .........DESKTOP??????
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)I don't know, felt appropriate.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)She wasn't adept at using email, but had the wherewithal to order a separate email server to be set up....?