2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary ALREADY Voted Many Times for a Border Wall
Hillary has ALREADY voted many times to actually construct one to keep out "illegal immigrants."
http://www.latintimes.com/hillary-clinton-bragging-about-building-border-wall-keeping-out-illegal-immigrants-352631
I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in, Clinton said .
http://www.latintimes.com/hillary-clinton-bragging-about-building-border-wall-keeping-out-illegal-immigrants-352631
Hillary Flip Flops on Immigration (finger to the wind, as usual)
If something doesn't poll well, Hillary won't take a stand on it. She didn't want immigrants to be granted driver's licenses:
It was a politically tough issue, Elliot Spitzer told the Times. It didnt poll well, but there was no ambiguity about what was right. And if you look at where we are now as a nation on this very issue Its the law of the land, I think, in California, a slew of states, and its not controversial because people know its right and it works. But at the time it was controversial. And because it was controversial she hemmed and she hawed.
http://www.latintimes.com/hillary-clinton-immigration-flip-flops-criticized-martin-omalley-immigrant-activist-351341
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... that there is a difference between "barriers" at border crossing points and a "wall" between two countries?
Well, it seems apparent that you don't.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)While you are being truthful in your statement it still seems to run a bit counter to her current opinion, no?
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)I don't think anyone believes we shouldn't have border crossings that are "barriers" that keep certain people from entering the country.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Nice to meet you, now you can say you know someone that believes in open borders.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)Having known people who have worked at Customs, I do not believe in open borders. There are things people try to get over-the-border that make "barriers" necessary.
amborin
(16,631 posts)HRC is referrring to "illegal iimmigrants" about whom she speaks very disparagingly
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)They are why there are barriers at borders. "Barriers" at border check-points have nothing to do with immigration - they have to do with keeping a certain element from entering the country even temporarily.
I'm an American living in Toronto. I have passed through the "barriers" that exist between Canada and the US hundreds of times. I had to be prepared to prove my identity, my residency, my citizenship, and to answer any relevant questions about why I was traveling to/from another country.
amborin
(16,631 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)This is a bit of a last gasp, I think. Gather up the stuff lying around in the corners, and fling it as hard as one can!
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Most every member of Congress supports enhancing border security, Hillary is not alone in this. In case you've never been to the border, it already looks like this;
and sometimes just this
There's nothing wrong with this. Many Americans support a sensible border strategy, but one that treat as those that do make it across humanely.
That is not this
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The (yes, somewhat silly & exaggerated) vision Trump has of his keep-the-Mexicans-out plan, and to treat them as essentially subhuman in the process. To say that Hillary supports this, as Amborin is doing i nthe DU tonight, is Grade-A horseshit.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Response to amborin (Original post)
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