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TDale313

(7,820 posts)
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:51 PM May 2016

Has Warren handled the primaries pretty much perfectly?

Been thinking a lot about Senator Warren recently, and I have to say, the more I do, the more I think she has found herself to be a serious player moving forward. She managed to stay above the fray, support many of Bernie's ideas, stay in the Democratic Establishment and Clinton's teams good graces. Take serious aim at Trump. In a horrendously divisive primary she may be one of the few figures that is still in the limelight that most people- al least on "our side of the aisle" have a lot of respect for. Is she- in whatever capacity- our best shot at a bridgebuilder? I can see many ways that could play out, but am I right in feeling she's navigated shark infested waters pretty flawlessly?

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Has Warren handled the primaries pretty much perfectly? (Original Post) TDale313 May 2016 OP
Above the fray? scscholar May 2016 #1
Fair enough, although I meant on the Dem side. TDale313 May 2016 #3
Agreed, with one caveat. Shemp Howard May 2016 #2
Oh, I agree. I don't really expect her to be the nominee in 2016. TDale313 May 2016 #5
Will do... brooklynite May 2016 #12
Sen Warren has been wonderful. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #4
Warren is a full spectrum apart NorthCarolina May 2016 #8
Warren has been cowardly and cynical. BillZBubb May 2016 #6
re: "That really tarnishes her progressive credentials." thesquanderer May 2016 #7
Smart people live in the real world. realmirage May 2016 #11
So, the real world is to endorse no one? BillZBubb May 2016 #14
By extension the "real world" would have been... JackRiddler May 2016 #16
According to your perspective. Fortunately reality realmirage May 2016 #20
So, in your real world, no one should endorse anyone! That's brilliant! BillZBubb May 2016 #22
warren knows that disparging either hillary or sanders is doing trumps work...and too bad sanders beachbum bob May 2016 #9
Nope, she should have endorsed Bernie ages ago. One Black Sheep May 2016 #10
"In my eyes" realmirage May 2016 #21
Warren understands how America works. realmirage May 2016 #13
Thanks for your magical view into her brain. JackRiddler May 2016 #17
Rationalizing why she didn't endorse Bernie realmirage May 2016 #19
Don't actually care. JackRiddler May 2016 #23
I think I would have liked to see her endorse someone. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #15
By not running Dem2 May 2016 #18

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
2. Agreed, with one caveat.
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:57 PM
May 2016

Warren did not run in the primaries. She chose not to put herself through that grueling process, having to face voters in state after state. Nothing wrong with that, choosing not to run.

But IMHO, that disqualifies her from being our eventual 2016 nominee. It's either Hillary or Bernie. Pick one, Democrats.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
5. Oh, I agree. I don't really expect her to be the nominee in 2016.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:34 PM
May 2016

Or the VP, for that matter. Not sure what the perfect role would be- a leadership role in the Senate? Cabinet? Working as some sort of liaison/bridge between the movement that comes out of the Sanders Campaign and the power brokers in the Democratic Party? Running in 2020 if Dems don't win the White House? It all depends on how November shakes out- it just strikes me she's in a very good place right now to shape things going forward.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
8. Warren is a full spectrum apart
Sat May 28, 2016, 11:42 AM
May 2016

from Hillary on policy though, and much more in line with Bernie Sanders whom I am guessing you despise from you posts. Do you agree with EW on her policy stances when it comes to average working folk and the poor, or do you side more with the Hillary camp that success and things like healthcare and such should only come as a reward for becoming successful through hard work and connections?

I'm really curious why you would post such a glowing statement on EW, and yet despise the flip side of the same coin.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
6. Warren has been cowardly and cynical.
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:17 AM
May 2016

She knows Hillary isn't a progressive and that Bernie is. But by not endorsing Bernie, she keeps herself viable with the Democratic establishment. Maybe it's a politically safe move, but it is hardly leadership and shows ZERO heart in the fight for the soul of the party.

That really tarnishes her progressive credentials.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
7. re: "That really tarnishes her progressive credentials."
Sat May 28, 2016, 11:35 AM
May 2016

I don't think it tarnished her progressive credentials, but it did confirm that she is a politician.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
16. By extension the "real world" would have been...
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016

an uncontested coronation of the predetermined establishment candidate.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
9. warren knows that disparging either hillary or sanders is doing trumps work...and too bad sanders
Sat May 28, 2016, 11:48 AM
May 2016

really doesn't care if he helps trump...its all about bernie, his ego, and the microphone in front of him.....Warren has 10x the class that sanders has...and I don't see how sanders does anything positive for the democratic party come the general election as he is descending into the angry old rejected socialist....

he lost.

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
10. Nope, she should have endorsed Bernie ages ago.
Sat May 28, 2016, 11:53 AM
May 2016

I agree with the previous post saying the same.

She is a phony progressive, in my eyes.

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
13. Warren understands how America works.
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:09 PM
May 2016

She knows that, in the real world, progress doesn't come in sweeping avalanches. Educated Americans understand that this is a system with checks and balances, which makes sweeping change pretty much impossible. Thus, progress comes in steps. This system also protects us from shitty right wing movements that would try to make sweeping changes in their direction.

If you don't like this system, you don't understand the basics of your own country.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
17. Thanks for your magical view into her brain.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:52 PM
May 2016
She knows that, in the real world, progress doesn't come in sweeping avalanches.


I know that, in the real world, projection works best at remote distances!
 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
19. Rationalizing why she didn't endorse Bernie
Sat May 28, 2016, 06:09 PM
May 2016

I know is a painful process for you. But reality is reality.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
23. Don't actually care.
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:19 AM
May 2016

Don't pretend I know for sure, but I do have an easier explanation for her lack of a stand than the platitude you served up. I mean, unless you've got a link to her talking in such a vague and pathetic, uncharacteristic fashion? I think more highly of her, despite her failure to act. I do.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
15. I think I would have liked to see her endorse someone.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:45 PM
May 2016

So I know where she really stands. I think she's a very strong voice on some issues, but speaking out when your own people fuck up takes a lot more courage than railing against Trump.

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