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One of the 99

(2,280 posts)
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:11 AM May 2016

Great points by Robert Reich

First, my advice to Clinton supporters: Don’t try to drum Bernie Sanders out of the race before Hillary Clinton officially gets the nomination (if she in fact does get it).
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It’s true that Bernie’s chances are slim, but it’s inaccurate to say he has no chance. If you consider only pledged delegates, who have been selected in caucuses and primaries, he’s not all that far behind Hillary Clinton. And the upcoming primary in California — the nation’s most populous state — could possibly alter Sanders’s and Clinton’s relative tallies.
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Sanders should stay in the race also because he has attracted a large number of young people and independents.
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Finally and not the least, Sanders has been telling a basic truth about the American political economic system — that growing inequality of income and wealth has led inexorably to the increasing political power of those at the top, including big corporations and Wall Street banks. And that political power has stacked the deck in their favor, leading to still wider inequality.

Nothing important can be accomplished — reversing climate change, creating true equal opportunity, overcoming racism, rebuilding the middle class, having a sane and sensible foreign policy — until we reclaim our democracy from the moneyed interests. The longer Bernie Sanders is on stage to deliver this message, the better.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/advice-for-divided-democrats_b_10162184.html

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Response to One of the 99 (Original post)

LiberalFighter

(50,959 posts)
2. Robert Reich unfortunately this time is mistaken.
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:24 AM
May 2016

Sanders needs 841 of the remaining 940 delegates (It might be closer to 920 remaining). That is 89.5% needed. Delegates in this case includes both pledged and unpledged. Sanders does not have any chance. He would have a better chance of getting hit by lightening.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
3. Are you saying that if Bernie pulled ahead in pledged delegates after the remaining states
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:46 AM
May 2016

he shouldn't be the nominee?

LiberalFighter

(50,959 posts)
4. Sure, If he pulls ahead.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:33 AM
May 2016

But do you seriously think with the small pool of delegates available that he has a real shot? But the majority of delegates is with both pledged and unpledged per the convention rules. Even if based on majority of pledged he needs 526 delegates. Sanders needs more than twice what Clinton needs of pledged delegates.

LiberalFighter

(50,959 posts)
6. Pledged delegates don't vote either.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:40 AM
May 2016

Yet their votes are already tallied. But guess what? So are the unpledged delegates per convention rules.

IV. Certification Requirements
C. Presidential Preference:

Ten (10) days after the completion of the state’s delegate selection process, each state’s Democratic Chair shall certify in writing to the Secretary of the Democratic National Committee the presidential preference (including uncommitted) of the state’s delegates.


Over 550 have already publicly declared their preference. More will declare when they hold their state conventions.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
9. Sure it's possible. Unlikely sure, but still very much possible.
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:14 AM
May 2016

At this point it would probably take a collapse by Hillary, but that's not outside the realm of reason with everything that's been going on lately. Everything falling apart for her in the next 10 days isn't very likely. But by the convention in July it very well could. So it's in Bernie's best interest to stay in until the very end regardless.


Hillary could end up cleared of all wrongdoing in the FBI investigation or she could be indicted. Either is possible at this point, whether you choose to accept it or not. But regardless of which happens there, it doesn't change the fact she's a very damaged candidate going into the general. Her negatives are massive, particularly with Independents. She isn't trusted by practically anyone outside our core base. She's polling in a dead heat with Trump! She should be destroying his bigoted incompetent ass, and she's running even with him! And contrary to popular belief around here, where she's at isn't Bernie's doing or even the Republican's doing.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
7. This is where he lost me: "If you consider only pledged delegates..."
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:48 AM
May 2016

That would be great, if only pledged delegates were allowed to vote on a nominee. But in our system, super delegates exist and need to be considered.

BlueStateLib

(937 posts)
8. There are 4050 pledged delegates, 2026 delegates is half + 1
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:00 AM
May 2016

Who ever gets to 2026 or more pledged delegates will be the nominee

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