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If Hillary can have the "winning at all costs" attitude, then so can Bernie (Original Post) AZ Progressive May 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #1
At all cost? Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #2
Pyrrhic. Yes, that's a real word. Look it up :/ Electric Monk May 2016 #11
Bernie already lost. BzaDem May 2016 #3
Yeah, onenote made the same point in another thread. Garrett78 May 2016 #8
Bernie is losing at all costs. nt LexVegas May 2016 #4
I can't top that. NanceGreggs May 2016 #5
Yeah... TwilightZone May 2016 #15
Hillarians don't give a damn shit about anything other than winning... AZ Progressive May 2016 #6
Hillary is not a winning at all costs type of person. She has always supported BreakfastClub May 2016 #7
If you've been keeping 840high May 2016 #10
Someone hasn't been paying attention, obviously pinebox May 2016 #17
HRC is not attempting MFM008 May 2016 #9
Examples? As a Berner I'd seriously like to know, because I don't think either is trying to win at ancianita May 2016 #12
You: "Hillary proves that "winning at all costs" is not a value that Americans should have" TwilightZone May 2016 #13
Only one candidate, Hillary, can actually win at this point, though Tarc May 2016 #14
He's already lost. geek tragedy May 2016 #16

Response to AZ Progressive (Original post)

BzaDem

(11,142 posts)
3. Bernie already lost.
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:13 AM
May 2016

His remaining avenue of victory is persuading superdelegates to overturn the pledge delegate count. He himself has said that this is his remaining path to victory.

That is about as likely as electors voting in the electoral college to overturn the voters of their own state. Yet we don't go along and pretend the election isn't decided until the electoral college physically votes. If Romney kept campaigning after election day, in the hopes of changing the minds of electors, we wouldn't say he was attempting to "win at all costs." We would say that he lost, and move onto other things.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
8. Yeah, onenote made the same point in another thread.
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:29 AM
May 2016

Just as neither the pledged delegates nor the superdelegates become official until the convention, the electoral college votes don't become official as soon as a winner is declared on election night in November.

Honestly, I get the impression a lot of folks on DU simply don't know how the process works (and, yes, that includes some Clinton supporters).

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
6. Hillarians don't give a damn shit about anything other than winning...
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:19 AM
May 2016

The funny thing is that that attitude may lose them the election once it is exposed just how corrupt Hillary is. You make the bed you lie in.

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
7. Hillary is not a winning at all costs type of person. She has always supported
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:26 AM
May 2016

the democratic party over her own personal interests. She worked her heart out for Obama after he won the primary. That is not a win at all costs person. If she were, she would have sued, tried to get state votes overturned, etc., like Bernie is doing now. Bernie is the one who will stop at nothing to win, even though he has lost. He will sue, whine, incite violence, claim things are rigged, and act like a spoiled child who didn't get his way. He's basically a nightmare candidate for the dems. He is greatly disliked throughout congress by his own colleagues who have known the man for many years. That should tell you something. You reap what you sow indeed, and Bernie doesn't have democratic leadership support because he has alienated everyone he knows. I've also read personal accounts of people who have worked for him. He screams at people and is very demanding and insulting. He's not a nice guy.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
10. If you've been keeping
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:40 AM
May 2016

up with the news you know she is. She wants to win even at the expense of this country.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
9. HRC is not attempting
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:40 AM
May 2016

to win at the cost of the democratic party and the country.
Sanders campaign has degenerated into threats/blackmail

ancianita

(36,109 posts)
12. Examples? As a Berner I'd seriously like to know, because I don't think either is trying to win at
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:27 AM
May 2016

any cost but waking up people conned by Trump.

If you could give threat/blackmail examples, Berners need to know cuz that would definitely piss them off in huge numbers.

TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
13. You: "Hillary proves that "winning at all costs" is not a value that Americans should have"
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:12 AM
May 2016

You should probably make up your mind.

Edit for link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512072614

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
14. Only one candidate, Hillary, can actually win at this point, though
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:13 AM
May 2016

It really is time to set aside the #berniemath and the prayers for indictment; Bernie Sanders cannot and will not be the Democratic nominee.

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