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Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:49 AM May 2016

GOP Official Alleges Bernie Sanders Pressured Bank for Burlington College Loan New FBI information

Brady Toensing, the vice chair of the Vermont Republican Party, alleged Thursday that Sen. Bernie Sanders’ (I-Vt.) Senate office pressured a bank to approve a loan to Burlington College while his wife, Jane O’Meara Sanders, was its president.

A spokesman for Sanders dismissed the allegation as “preposterous,” “politically instigated” and an example of an outrageous personal attack.

Toensing, a lawyer, said he was following up on a request he made in January for a federal investigation of Sanders’ wife in her former role as president of Burlington College. Toensing alleged then that in applying for a loan to purchase a new campus, O’Meara Sanders overstated by nearly $2 mclick to enlarge Jane Sanders - FILE
FILE Jane Sanders illion the amount of donations the college had received.

On Thursday, Toensing told a federal prosecutor he had new information.


http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2016/05/26/gop-official-levels-burlington-college-related-allegation-against-sanders

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GOP Official Alleges Bernie Sanders Pressured Bank for Burlington College Loan New FBI information (Original Post) Tavarious Jackson May 2016 OP
So, Hillary supporters are now going right to citing Republicans who have no sources to offer. Scootaloo May 2016 #1
Yes, chamois that sucker! dchill May 2016 #7
Asked what kind of pressure was allegedly exerted, he said, “The bank was told to get it done.” merrily May 2016 #78
they're also supporting Trump vs. Bernie Cobalt Violet May 2016 #11
Stop making stuff up-it makes you look foolish riversedge May 2016 #28
An independent VT newspaper published this article. And it does not seem that riversedge May 2016 #29
So we're vetting people who are "done" now? Scootaloo May 2016 #31
These people Demsrule86 May 2016 #37
Sooo, you're claiming Tavarious there isn't a Clinton supporter? Scootaloo May 2016 #53
It means that 100% of past, present and future Republican assertions about Hillary must also be true virtualobserver May 2016 #77
Republicans hate college students scscholar May 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #3
Don't get upset. It's not good for you. Know what's good for you? merrily May 2016 #6
It's the last acts of a dying campaign... Yurovsky May 2016 #83
Exactly how does one pressure a bank? nt Live and Learn May 2016 #4
Same way you pressure Wall Street, duh. You go right down there and tell them to cut it out! merrily May 2016 #10
VERMONT'S INDEPENDENT VOICE Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #5
Thank HEAVEN! I've been hoping some blog obsessesd with Sanders would get all up in this! merrily May 2016 #8
So what is it about? Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #9
Trying to deflect from Hillary's email posts? Were those the instructions? merrily May 2016 #13
No it's new Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #15
New? Really? Bernie pressured a bank two days ago? Great source, too! merrily May 2016 #17
The letter was sent 2 days ago. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #18
Bernie pressured the bank two days ago? Are you sure? merrily May 2016 #20
No. i don't keep anyone on ignore Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #27
At this juncture. merrily May 2016 #59
No. I do not keep anyone on ignore Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #71
And the Onion is America's Finest News Source Bjorn Against May 2016 #70
No, the allegation that Bernie pressured the banks was several years ago. TexasTowelie May 2016 #25
So, we have an ALLEGATION from a STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY official that merrily May 2016 #36
How dare an independent newspaper in Vermont TexasTowelie May 2016 #40
WEBSITE that appears obsessed with Sanders, quoting ALLEGATION of a STATE GOP OFFICIAL. merrily May 2016 #42
Indeed. Would you agree that posters who use Toensing...or partners in his law practice, like msanthrope May 2016 #44
Sorry, I'm not playing. If you have a point to make, state it. merrily May 2016 #57
Despite your allegations that the newspaper is either biased or obsessed with Sanders TexasTowelie May 2016 #47
wowza. Talk about obessession! My reply 36 gave my take on the nothingburger merrily May 2016 #58
Yeah, nothing happening here TexasTowelie May 2016 #60
Again, see Reply 36. And see Bernie's record of winning elections in Vermont, merrily May 2016 #61
I am touched by your concern for my health. TexasTowelie May 2016 #63
My concern for everyone's mental and physical health is a reason I support Medicare for all. merrily May 2016 #64
Who doesn't support that? Demsrule86 May 2016 #81
Hillary Clinton, for one. merrily May 2016 #84
I should add I just finished paying off Demsrule86 May 2016 #82
Seven Days doesn't do serious political reporting. vtdigger cali May 2016 #46
It appears to be one of many sources for political reporting. TexasTowelie May 2016 #48
I live here. SD does very little news or political reporting cali May 2016 #49
Nice summary. tazkcmo May 2016 #51
FYI, TexasTowelie May 2016 #56
7 days is mostly known for its weekly calendar of events karynnj May 2016 #85
The story has also been covered by Vermont Public Radio. TexasTowelie May 2016 #86
And you've been here since 5/16/16, hobbit709 May 2016 #30
Well, it's not exactly Willie Horton, but I guess you go to war with the scandal you have, bemildred May 2016 #12
It is interesting that one of the earlier articles on this subject for TexasTowelie May 2016 #14
Yes it is. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #16
I don't know, TexasTowelie May 2016 #21
Yes there does! Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #22
I believe that the first post I had was on April 16 TexasTowelie May 2016 #23
Foretaste of 9 years of a Collegegate and a Visagate? Hortensis May 2016 #38
Since Burlington College is closing its doors because of finanical problems just may Thinkingabout May 2016 #19
From the Vice Chair of the Vermont Republican Party. Vinca May 2016 #24
You want him for president. This would be nothing Hortensis May 2016 #39
Wholly unsubstantiated, pal. Here: cali May 2016 #26
I am so glad we have Tavarious Jackson in the case! Bread and Circus May 2016 #32
It will be unraveled and exposed. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #33
Oh my, defender of "good people", then you must be APOPLECTIC... Barack_America May 2016 #35
Tsk Tsk Demsrule86 May 2016 #43
YOU know jackshit about it cali May 2016 #41
Actually, the lawsuit is bulkshit. The only thing of note is that there's a claims an msanthrope May 2016 #45
This one's been busy this morning with fresh directives. Barack_America May 2016 #34
He's our very own Encyclopedia Brown!!! QC May 2016 #87
You happened to miss this in the article pinebox May 2016 #50
You guys want so badly to project Hillary's weaknesses onto Sanders. Marr May 2016 #52
He apparently REALLY enjoys defending bankers... catnhatnh May 2016 #54
Member since: Mon May 16, 2016, 10:02 PM chascarrillo May 2016 #55
Four hidden posts. Blue_In_AK May 2016 #62
Was the Republican you cite playing anti gay DMX songs too? Bluenorthwest May 2016 #65
lol vintx May 2016 #66
Always happy to bring Declan to mind..... Bluenorthwest May 2016 #67
On Thursday, Toensing told a federal prosecutor he had new information. workinclasszero May 2016 #68
Did he give any other details? Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #69
But was he playing anti gay DMX songs? Were chairs and bottles thrown? Bluenorthwest May 2016 #72
I was glad to see that was cleared up Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #74
Your posts in that thread make this claim specious as hell. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #75
No new information but he had an excuse to get media coverage and give ammunition to Hillaryites ... imagine2015 May 2016 #73
But seriously... RazBerryBeret May 2016 #76
Right, cause Sanders is all up in it with the banks. notadmblnd May 2016 #79
I don't like GOP sources Demsrule86 May 2016 #80
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. So, Hillary supporters are now going right to citing Republicans who have no sources to offer.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:53 AM
May 2016

Christ almighty, and you guys have the gall to call Bernie supporters "desperate"?

Go back to rubbing your hard drive with a chamois.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
78. Asked what kind of pressure was allegedly exerted, he said, “The bank was told to get it done.”
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:57 AM
May 2016

Whoa! Someone told a loan officer to get a loan done?

This is SERIES111!11!! I mean it!

riversedge

(70,248 posts)
29. An independent VT newspaper published this article. And it does not seem that
Sat May 28, 2016, 06:05 AM
May 2016

there is any substance to the allegation.
This article is all part of Sanders being vetted--just like Hillary is being vetted by the GOP

Demsrule86

(68,600 posts)
37. These people
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:27 AM
May 2016

have been used to attack Hillary... they are not her supporters...and the crowd went ooooooooooBernie! FBI investigation? That is a serious allegation...and could get you in the Danbury Fed country club.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
77. It means that 100% of past, present and future Republican assertions about Hillary must also be true
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:55 AM
May 2016

That goes without saying.

Response to Tavarious Jackson (Original post)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. Don't get upset. It's not good for you. Know what's good for you?
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:13 AM
May 2016

Cruciferous vegetables!





#SheIsWithHerself

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
83. It's the last acts of a dying campaign...
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:31 PM
May 2016

Nixon at least had Bob Dole around to tell him it was over. Hillary only has the Royal Gum Fetcher...

merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. Trying to deflect from Hillary's email posts? Were those the instructions?
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:23 AM
May 2016

Just a wild guess.

I don't explain GOP officials, especially to people who tell me posting GOP sources is baaaaad thing to do.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
20. Bernie pressured the bank two days ago? Are you sure?
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:30 AM
May 2016

And no, it isn't. Neither is a minor GOP official.

BTW, didn't you tell me you had me on ignore?

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
71. No. I do not keep anyone on ignore
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:00 AM
May 2016

I know.. GOP. I take that into consideration, still there is a fraud investigation into a presidential candidate.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
70. And the Onion is America's Finest News Source
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:55 AM
May 2016

It says so on the front page of every issue so it must be true.

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
25. No, the allegation that Bernie pressured the banks was several years ago.
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:56 AM
May 2016

The article was published two days ago, but the feeble attempt at deflection is noted. Seven Days is also an independent newspaper instead of a corporate newspaper. As a matter of fact, one of the other articles about Burlington College was written by the partner of someone who works for the Sanders presidential campaign. This is also GDP instead of LBN so it does not have to meet the more stringent requirements of LBN that call for mainstream Websites.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
36. So, we have an ALLEGATION from a STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY official that
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:22 AM
May 2016

Last edited Sat May 28, 2016, 07:55 AM - Edit history (1)

Bernie years ago told someone in a bank to get a loan done? From a website that seems obsessed with Sanders? And the fact that the state Republican party official complained no one did anything about the state Republican Party official's prior complaint makes this news, after DU discussed it months ago?

A great property owned by the Catholic Church became available, with the Church being willing to take back paper. The board of the directors of a non-traditional college approved the acquisition. A bank loan was needed for the acquisition, which the board no doubt also approved when it approved the acquisition. No one alleges Jane pocketed any money. Jane Sanders left the college in 2011. We don't know why. Several years after Jane Sanders left the college, another college President left. We don't know why. Some time after the second departure, the college, which had all of 75 students at the time, eventually went broke in 2016, five years after Jane's departure. And, hold on to your hat, there is also an ALLEGATION that Bernie told someone in the bank to get the loan done.

HEINOUS!

This is a case for Elliot Ness for sure. And REALLY worth discussing yet again because someone who joined DU this month and posts one hit piece about Sanders after another is desperate to deflect from the Hillary email stories?

You seem to have mistaken my mocking this transparently desperate attempt by the OP to deflect as my own attempt to deflect from this hoary nothingburger. You are so very mistaken. The OP is worth derision, yes. An attempt to deflect, though?(snort) No. .


TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
40. How dare an independent newspaper in Vermont
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:43 AM
May 2016

focus on the activities of a senator from Vermont. However, I realize that intentional efforts to dismiss this report are another attempt of a desperate campaign. Your feeble efforts at deflection are also worthy of humor and derision, plus I can wave back too.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
42. WEBSITE that appears obsessed with Sanders, quoting ALLEGATION of a STATE GOP OFFICIAL.
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:49 AM
May 2016

About something that happened years ago and was discussed on DU months ago.

If the opening post could possibly be more lame, I can't imagine how.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
44. Indeed. Would you agree that posters who use Toensing...or partners in his law practice, like
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:09 AM
May 2016

Joe DiGenova, as a source, are misguided?

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
47. Despite your allegations that the newspaper is either biased or obsessed with Sanders
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016

an examination of their content shows otherwise. These are the headlines from the News & Opinions articles on the first three pages of the newspaper Website (excluding LTTE) that date back to May 6. I've emphasized all articles mentioning Sanders by name or Burlington College.

Donald Trump Retracts Pledge to Debate Bernie Sanders
Sanders Endorsement Nets Pearson $60K for State Senate Bid

Progs Flock to Democratic Primary, but There’s a Hitch
GOP Official Alleges Bernie Sanders Pressured Bank for Burlington College Loan
Media Note: VPR Cries Foul Over Lisman’s Use of Its Photo in Campaign Flier
Burlington Police Investigate Assault As a Possible Hate Crime
Bernie Bits: Trump, Sanders Say They'll Debate
Critics of Rutland Refugee Plan Grill Aldermen, Resettlement Officials
All Together Now? Conventions Reveal Parties' Divides
He's Back: Peter Clavelle on Bernie, the Mall and Life in Albania
Zero Tolerance: Judge's Decision Threatens the Use of DUI Evidence
Vermont Tech's First Class of Pro Pilots
Reddit Brings a UVM Evolutionary Robotics Class to the World
Critics Crowd Burlington Meeting to Oppose Building-Height Increase
Utah Engineer Hires Local PR Firm to Pave the Way for Vermont Settlement
Suspended Sen. McAllister to Run for Reelection
After Resigning, Peter Owens Returns to Burlington City Hall — Temporarily
Rutland Aldermen to Discuss Syrian Refugee Plan
Vermont Democrats Rally Around Sanders at State Convention
Scott, Lisman Take Off the Gloves at State GOP Convention
Burlington College Students Hold Mock Funeral for Their School
Shumlin Vetoes Bill to Avoid Adding Clean Water Board Members
New Performance Venue Planned in Thriving Downtown Winooski
Bernie Bits: Sanders’ Spat With the Democratic Establishment Gets Nastier
Three Democrats Square Off in Race for Lieutenant Governor
Shap Smith to Run for Lieutenant Governor
Legal Aid: Campaigning for AG, Donovan Rakes in the Cash
Conventional Wisdom: Would-Be Delegates Seek Front-Row Seat to History
After Burlington College's Collapse, More Questions Than Answers
Bernie Sanders Wins Oregon; Clinton Declares Victory in Kentucky

Holy Fireball! BTV Camera Captures Meteor Early Tuesday
Competition Mounts in Chittenden Senate Race
Burlington Council Grants Residency Exemption for New CEDO Chief
Cybersecurity Firm Pwnie Express To Expand in Boston and Burlington
Progressives Won’t Endorse a Democrat in Gubernatorial Race
Burlington College Will Close Its Doors This Month
St. Johnsbury Republican to Run for Attorney General
Baruth Endorses Ashe as Senate President Pro Tem Race Begins
Facing Pressure From Matt Dunne, Sue Minter Returns Corporate Cash
Media Note: News Outlets Face Tough Choices on Graphic Police Videos
Rep. Chris Pearson to Run for State Senate
Burlington High School Students Protest Cuts With ‘For Sale’ Signs
Contrary to Claim, Leahy Has Taken $34K Worth of Free Travel
Bernie Bits: Trump Dubs Sanders 'Crazy Bernie'
Over and Out: Vermont's Top Pols Depart Without a Bang
Pass/Fail: The 2016 Legislative Session's Final Tally
Smoked: Why the Pot Legalization Bill Failed
Why More Vermont Parents Are Losing Their Children — Permanently
After a DUI, Deportation? What Awaits Migrant Activist Victor Diaz
In West Virginia, Sanders Picks Up 19th Win
Phil Scott Pitches Shorter Session, Two-Year State Budget
Prosecutors: Burlington Police Shooting of Mentally Ill Man Was Justified
New CEDO Director, Same 'Personal Hardship'
Once an EB-5 Fan, Milne Criticizes Leahy for 'Mismanaging' Program
Leaders Say Farewell as Vermont Legislature Adjourns
Budget and Tax Bills Pass Despite Republican Opposition
Energy Siting Bill Passes, But Doesn’t Guarantee Peace

The coverage of articles relating to Bernie based on the headlines is generally positive (I did not read the "Bernie Bits" articles though). Considering that Bernie is a presidential candidate and is trying to get as much media coverage as possible the headlines do not indicate anything overly critical. There have been four articles regarding the Burlington College closing, but considering that it is an important event in Vermont it appears to be good newspaper coverage rather than a hatchet job. Just as I don't accept every word spoken by a Democrat to be be absolute gospel, I also do not dismiss allegations made by a GOP officials as being invalid because I know that people in power (such as Bernie) do exert influence to get things done, whether it is subtle or forthright. Usually the truth lies somewhere in the middle of what is being said.

This story reported that it was allegations by GOP officials so that the reader can make a determination as to its veracity. You can dismiss them entirely, while I suspect that there are elements of truth to them so we will have to see what comes from these allegations at a later date. However, disparaging the newspaper because it actually reported news isn't necessary. If anything we need more independent newspapers to report news from the local beat that are not part of the larger corporate chains such as Gannett, Tribune, etc. so that we are more informed.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
58. wowza. Talk about obessession! My reply 36 gave my take on the nothingburger
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:25 AM
May 2016

the OP is stirring caked pots about.

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
60. Yeah, nothing happening here
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:41 AM
May 2016

which is why this story also appears on VPR--I guess that they must be obsessed and out to get Bernie also since he can do nothing wrong.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. We'll see what happens in the future.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
61. Again, see Reply 36. And see Bernie's record of winning elections in Vermont,
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:44 AM
May 2016

including the Democratic primary, always getting votes of a healthy percentage of Republicans, as well as almost all Democrats, which I very much suspect is this Vermont state GOP official's real frustration that no one gave a crap about his ALLEGATION that, years ago, Bernie (gasp) told a bank employee to get a loan done.

Meanwhile, I hope you and that website move past this nothingburger, which would be a much healthier course.

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
63. I am touched by your concern for my health.
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:33 AM
May 2016

I suspect that this story will be getting more attention in the future rather than less.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
64. My concern for everyone's mental and physical health is a reason I support Medicare for all.
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:45 AM
May 2016

As most Democrats, especially DUers once did, or claimed to.

I suspect that this story will be getting more attention in the future rather than less.


I have no doubt that some will try to milk it for far more than it's worth, especially Brock's paid online and media contingent. Attention doesn't mean it's valid or important, though.

Have a great night.

Demsrule86

(68,600 posts)
81. Who doesn't support that?
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:28 PM
May 2016

I sure do. But I also know unless we get the House back there is 0 chance of that happening ...and Obamacare has saved thousands of lives...and will save millions eventually. This is why I was never a Bernie supporter, he is rigid in his ideology and could not work to get the best deal possible as Obama did with health care. Is it perfect hell no...it is better than what we had when Keith Olberman was running clinics and people came in with stage 4 breast cancer? Yes ...it is better. Peurto Rico...also...I don't like the deal particularly but knowing the House ...are we going to get a better deal? Can we allow the people to starve while we wait for the perfect? It can be changed later after we toss out the GOP liars in the House out onto the street...but help is needed right now.

Demsrule86

(68,600 posts)
82. I should add I just finished paying off
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:31 PM
May 2016

about $10,000 in deductibles from a private employer based plan.My daughter broke both ankles and required surgery. Insurance sucks these days everywhere.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
46. Seven Days doesn't do serious political reporting. vtdigger
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:28 AM
May 2016

is by far the best, with VPR and VPT, coming in a distant second and third.

http://vtdigger.org/

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
48. It appears to be one of many sources for political reporting.
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:50 AM
May 2016

I'm not in Vermont so I won't making any judgment calls about which source is the best. However, they apparently have some connection with VPR to post some of their content. There do seem to be some improprieties regarding the loan that Burlington College received--whether the matter is investigated or a crime was committed is an unknown. I feel sorry for the students that attended the college since their education will be disrupted and for the graduates of the college since their degrees will lose value over time.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
49. I live here. SD does very little news or political reporting
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:54 AM
May 2016

They haven't for years.

And there is no evidence of impropriety. Jane Sanders did a shitty job. She deserves blame for it. She stupidly relied on pledges made with no way of guaranteeing that they'd materialize.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
85. 7 days is mostly known for its weekly calendar of events
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:53 PM
May 2016

It is free. Though it sometimes has good articles, it is not a serious newspaper.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
12. Well, it's not exactly Willie Horton, but I guess you go to war with the scandal you have,
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:20 AM
May 2016

Last edited Sat May 28, 2016, 10:25 AM - Edit history (1)

not the one you wanted.

Sounds a lot like lobbying for your wife's small college to me, the horrors.

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
14. It is interesting that one of the earlier articles on this subject for
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:25 AM
May 2016
Seven Days is written by a reporter whose partner, Charles Enscoe, works for Sanders' presidential campaign.

After Burlington College's Collapse, More Questions Than Answers

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
21. I don't know,
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:37 AM
May 2016

but considering that the article was published on May 18 it seems likely that he still does.

Between Burlington College and the Jay Peak fraud scandal (see my posts in the Vermont Group) there appears to be signs of corruption in Vermont.

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
23. I believe that the first post I had was on April 16
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:48 AM
May 2016

and that there were 1 or 2 subsequent posts. The matter deals with the resort receiving donations from foreign interests who were interested in receiving H1B visas which Bernie has supported in past Senate votes.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
38. Foretaste of 9 years of a Collegegate and a Visagate?
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:40 AM
May 2016

Frankly, these promise to be more substantial than servergate, actual alleged corruption after all--whoo, into sorta big league subjects relatively speaking--but still just as boring as hell for the GOP to yammer about for 9 years.

I'm off to the Vermont group to read, though. It's interesting to find out that people are actually "vetting" Sanders a bit. His coverage has been so incredibly, unsustainably friendly so far.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
19. Since Burlington College is closing its doors because of finanical problems just may
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:30 AM
May 2016

Prompt investigation into reasons why they have collapsed under their debt. I feel sure they will follow all avenues.

Vinca

(50,285 posts)
24. From the Vice Chair of the Vermont Republican Party.
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:50 AM
May 2016

That's quite a source you've got there. LOL. Does Tom DeLay want to weigh in? How about Louie Gohmert?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. You want him for president. This would be nothing
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:42 AM
May 2016

if he were winning, just a little smoke grenade tossed out to signal the start of battle.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
26. Wholly unsubstantiated, pal. Here:
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:59 AM
May 2016

n an interview, Toensing declined to reveal who approached him or what evidence the person offered. Asked what kind of pressure was allegedly exerted, he said, “The bank was told to get it d

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
35. Oh my, defender of "good people", then you must be APOPLECTIC...
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:19 AM
May 2016

...about the Wall Street Bailout. After all, those people fucked all of us (apologies for the language, but how else can it be stated)?

Please enlighten us with your rant on the candidate who supported THAT.

I'll wait.

Demsrule86

(68,600 posts)
43. Tsk Tsk
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:50 AM
May 2016

And Sanders supposedly cares about college kids...who now have no school...how much did Jane take from this college? The tax returns would tell us.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
45. Actually, the lawsuit is bulkshit. The only thing of note is that there's a claims an
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:12 AM
May 2016

SAR was filed. If that's true, that would be interesting to see.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
34. This one's been busy this morning with fresh directives.
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:11 AM
May 2016

Bit of the "scraping the barrel" variety, but you can't shoot the messenger.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
50. You happened to miss this in the article
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:56 AM
May 2016

Nice try.

You REALLY want to talk about candidates spouses? Do you REALLY want to go there?
We can.



catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
54. He apparently REALLY enjoys defending bankers...
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:38 PM
May 2016

" For the past nine years, he has represented the former President of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) through liquidation and multiple lawsuits involving allegations of international money laundering and bank fraud."
http://www.digenovatoensing.com/attorneybiosbt.htm

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
65. Was the Republican you cite playing anti gay DMX songs too?
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:28 AM
May 2016

Everyday you write the book, everyday you define your cohort for what it is.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
72. But was he playing anti gay DMX songs? Were chairs and bottles thrown?
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:03 AM
May 2016

I assume that this Smear of the Day has all the accuracy and good intention of yesterday's spews....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512074682

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
75. Your posts in that thread make this claim specious as hell.
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:47 AM
May 2016

Your intentions were very clear in that thread, you mocked those who challenged the voracity of your claims and kept demanding that Sanders apologize. You are the person who brought that bullshit here, held it up as truth and refused to delete it when it was proven false. A jury had to hide it because you wanted to let it linger.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
73. No new information but he had an excuse to get media coverage and give ammunition to Hillaryites ...
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:05 AM
May 2016

that can used to attack Bernie on discussion boards like DU.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
79. Right, cause Sanders is all up in it with the banks.
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:14 PM
May 2016

He has done so much for and has soooo much influence with banks that they just cower to his pressure

Demsrule86

(68,600 posts)
80. I don't like GOP sources
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:21 PM
May 2016

And I would have to see this elsewhere...but wouldn't it be hilarious is after all the screaming about email and now the Berns...comment about emails...and supers (today's Sunday show) that Bernie and Jane find themselves in real trouble...the kind that lands you in club fed.

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