2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton, foreign policy nightmare. Her instincts are undeniably militaristic
Hillary Clintons tough talk isnt just talk. Throughout her career as a senator and US secretary of state, she displayed instincts on foreign policy that are far more aggressive than those of President Barrack Obama or any Democrat, writes Mark Landler.
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ut she was understandably wary of talking about areas in which she and Obama split namely, on bedrock issues of war and peace, where Clintons more activist philosophy had already collided in unpredictable ways with her bosss instincts toward restraint. She had backed General Stanley McChrystals recommendation to send 40,000 more troops to Afghanistan, before endorsing a fallback proposal of 30,000 (Obama went along with that, though he stipulated that the soldiers would begin to pull out again in July 2011, which she viewed as problematic).
She supported the Pentagons plan to leave behind a residual force of 10,000 to 20,000 American troops in Iraq (Obama balked at this, largely because of his inability to win legal protections from the Iraqis, a failure that was to haunt him when the Islamic State overran much of the country). And she pressed for the United States to funnel arms to the rebels in Syrias civil war (an idea Obama initially rebuffed before later, halfheartedly, coming around to it).
That fundamental tension between Clinton and the US president would continue to be a defining feature of her four-year tenure as secretary of state. In the administrations first high-level meeting on Russia in February 2009, aides to Obama proposed that the United States make some symbolic concessions to Russia as a gesture of its good will in resetting the relationship.
Clinton, the last to speak, brusquely rejected the idea, saying, Im not giving up anything for nothing. Her hardheadedness made an impression on Robert Gates, the US defence secretary and George W. Bush holdover who was wary of a changed Russia. He decided there and then that she was someone he could do business with.
I thought, this is a tough lady, he told me. A few months after my interview in her office, another split emerged when Obama picked up a secure phone for a weekend conference call with Clinton, Gates and a handful of other advisers.
It was July 2010, four months after the North Korean military torpedoed a South Korean Navy corvette, sinking it and killing 46 sailors. Now, after weeks of fierce debate between the Pentagon and the State Department, the United States was gearing up to respond to this brazen provocation.
tentative plan developed by Clintons deputy at State, James Steinberg was to dispatch the aircraft carrier George Washington into coastal waters to the east of North Korea as an unusual show of force.
But Adm. Robert Willard, then the Pacific commander, wanted to send the carrier on a more aggressive course, into the Yellow Sea, between North Korea and China. The Chinese foreign ministry had warned the United States against the move, which for Willard was all the more reason to press forward.
He pushed the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff , Mike Mullen, who in turn pushed his boss, the defence secretary, to reroute the George Washington. Gates agreed, but he needed the commander in chief to sign off on a decision that could have political as well as military repercussions.
Gates laid out the case for diverting the George Washington to the Yellow Sea: that the United States should not look as if it was yielding to China. Clinton strongly seconded it. Weve got to run it up the gut! she had said to her aides a few days earlier.
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ucrdem
(15,512 posts)She's smart enough to know that a) she's got to control the purse strings tightly just like Bill did and b) she'll face a challenge in 2020 if she gets into any quagmires. Also Bernie was even more bellicose in their second debate which frankly concerns me.
cali
(114,904 posts)Lydia, where her pov prevailed has proven to be an unmitigated disaster. A no fly zone in Syria???
And what do you mean about Bernie?