2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI don't want to pick on Roman Catholics, but...
I found this in the Nave of the San Juan Capistrano Basilica.
broiles
(1,367 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)that talks about the Social Justice imperative of the Roman Catholic Faith and how Romney would let children and families go hungry and homeless, that Obama supports a right to choose--to include choosing life...it's a simple game to play. Lots of material here: http://www.catholicdemocrats.org/cfo/index.php
Go to the five a.m. service and leave them on the table in the front of the church. Put "Paid for By Jesuits in Jesus' Name" at the bottom or something--really fuck with 'em. Why not?
Squinch
(50,955 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)El Supremo
(20,365 posts)My church (Presbyterian) would never allow that.
rug
(82,333 posts)Is your church open all day?
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El Supremo
(20,365 posts)I will not welcome you to DU.
redwitch
(14,944 posts)I believe in the blue state Jesus.
Couldn't resist posting on this thread could you Mike? Guess you showed us! Now crawl back under your rock.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)kydo
(2,679 posts)the other 3 Catholics in my family. All early voted, in the I4 section of Fl even. On my husband's side of the family they had the huge Catholic family 7 boys one girl (Btw all siblings are over 50 my husband is the youngest at 48), only one is voting rmoney. But thats ok they always joked he was the adopted one anyway so maybe it was true.
I read something recently that while the pro life movement is still deep in the Church, in the US more Catholics would rather not focus on the abortion issue. As they are like me, Pro choice but would like to think that if they had to make the choice they would pick life but would not impose their wishes on others. More and more in the Church people are wanting to focus on helping people, like helping the homeless, feeding the hungry, you know all the stuff Jesus actually talked about.
And I have no problem voting for pro choice people. You are not going to hell for being pro choice or for voting pro choice. People that actually believe that have more probelms in their life but mostly in their head and the fear driven crap on faux news and rush just make the problem worse for simple minds like that.
And being a Catholic I completely encourge you to turn that flyer in to the people that it should be as it as no place being any where near any religous organization.
I believe in the sepratation of Church and State. Churchs fail to head the laws take the tax exemption away!
niyad
(113,336 posts)hint: unlike the dittoheads, people here actually do know the facts, not the propaganda the reichwingnuts hand out.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Enjoy your brief stay.
patrice
(47,992 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)niyad
(113,336 posts)that appears to be used ONLY in the rcc?
World English Dictionary
subsidiarity (səbˌsɪdɪˈærɪtɪ [Click for IPA pronunciation guide]
n
1. (in the Roman Catholic Church) a principle of social doctrine that all social bodies exist for the sake of the individual so that what individuals are able to do, society should not take over, and what small societies can do, larger societies should not take over
2. (in political systems) the principle of devolving decisions to the lowest practical level
patrice
(47,992 posts)Partial birth abortions of healthy fetuses, whose delivery cannot threaten the health or life of mothers, are not legal under Roe v. Wade, which is the legal standard President Obama supports.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)marriage for generations.
Also: You can go through ALL of the motions of marriage and if you don't actually commit to the other person in the manner defined by your vows, are you married?
Do the Catholic bishops rail against Catholics getting divorces and distribute handbills lying about them?
patrice
(47,992 posts)what they must DISCLOSE that they REFUSE to do.
The only thing the bishops are bitching about here is the fact that they don't want to have to tell their health care markets that they won't do certain things and thus limit their economic prospects to only those who agree with their VOLUNTARY limitation in the services that they provide.
patrice
(47,992 posts)way less than that. The federal government does not control 100% of what goes on in the nation's classrooms.
So, the bishops think people have a moral right to object to their federal tax dollars being spent on abortion, but they should keep their mouths shut and remain silent about how the bishops might spend their federal tax dollars for whatever "education" the bishops decide. People with a moral objection to to the lies of, e.g. Creationism, have no right to object to their tax dollars being spent on teaching that.
patrice
(47,992 posts)have a problem with that, they can choose to pay the fine, which might be less than the cost of providing the insurance anyway, and their employees can take their premiums to the national insurance exchanges and find the coverage that suits them - or - the bishops can get on board with the political effort to create public option health care coverage. No fault. No foul.
patrice
(47,992 posts)Why does the bishops' judgements take precedence over the primacy of individual conscience, not only in health care, the auto industry, and college loans, but in ALL things? WHERE IS THE DOGMA???
BlueInPhilly
(870 posts)And most of the nuns I know