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Here is Nate's numbers for each swing state in a little cheat sheet (Original Post) Logical Nov 2012 OP
I'll keep this handy. silverweb Nov 2012 #1
I am doing it because I am going insane! :-) Logical Nov 2012 #2
I don't understand Florida Flatpicker Nov 2012 #3
I agree. But some polls came out today with Obama +2. But Nate still says Romney 55% Logical Nov 2012 #7
A great number of seniors GallopingGhost Nov 2012 #16
Bookmarked RomneyLies Nov 2012 #4
Thanks amuse bouche Nov 2012 #5
Why are Obama's EV's so low? Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #6
Only using states with the projection > 80%. If you use all where Obama leads it is 303 Logical Nov 2012 #8
phew Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #10
Here is the link . . . & . . . Your predictions please before it is too late Coyotl Nov 2012 #9
You Decided that NC is NOT a swing state???????????????????? Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #11
Lighten up! Logical Nov 2012 #12
Nate still takes Gravis seriously even though it only echoes Rasmussen. Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #13
Nate has it 79% for Romney! So I don't think it is in play! Logical Nov 2012 #14
Nate still takes Gravis seriously even though it only echoes Rasmussen, and he does not live here. Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #15
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #17
So you think MI and NM are swing states and NC isn't? bornskeptic Nov 2012 #21
If you read my previous posts you would know that NC is by definition a swing state. Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #23
I'm very surprised that Nate has Obama that high in Ohio. Major Hogwash Nov 2012 #18
ONLY a 5 to 6 point lead thats a lot what are you talking about bigdarryl Nov 2012 #20
Nate's being rather conserative on this. bornskeptic Nov 2012 #22
I noticed that North Carolina isn't on there davidpdx Nov 2012 #19
Romney has a 80% chance of winning NC. So it is not a swing state. Logical Nov 2012 #24
Yeah that's what I thought davidpdx Nov 2012 #25

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
1. I'll keep this handy.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 09:32 PM
Nov 2012

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]It may save my sanity between now and Tuesday night. Seriously.

Thanks!

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
3. I don't understand Florida
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 09:35 PM
Nov 2012

A Large elderly population should not vote for the guy looking to gut their medicare.

How can you vote against your best interests like that?

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
4. Bookmarked
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 09:36 PM
Nov 2012

You just know there's going to be a terrible back and forth on the networks as they all want to drag it out yet they don't want to be the last to call a state.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
9. Here is the link . . . & . . . Your predictions please before it is too late
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 09:46 PM
Nov 2012
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

***** Official Pre-Election Electoral College Vote = Predictions Thread *****
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021644060

Sorry, no pool of money for the winning prediction

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
11. You Decided that NC is NOT a swing state????????????????????
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:40 AM
Nov 2012

Evidently your arithmetic in no better than Scott Rasmussen's. As of Friday there were nearly 400,000 more democratic voters who had early voted than republicans. This is nearly twice the number advantage in early voting as we saw at the same point in 2008.

I'm not saying that we have won as yet, and certainly anything can and may happen by the end of Tuesday. But we damn sure have a better chance of going blue than anyone thought possible prior to the conventions.

Why do so many people write off NC as inherently red??? The majority of governors in the last 30 years were Democrats. Honestly it amazes me just how lazy minded, biased and ignorant some allegedly informed people can be! Shame on you!

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
13. Nate still takes Gravis seriously even though it only echoes Rasmussen.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:31 AM
Nov 2012

Give me a break. Public Policy Polling originated in and operates in North Carolina has NC as an even split. How is that NOT a swing state?

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
15. Nate still takes Gravis seriously even though it only echoes Rasmussen, and he does not live here.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:50 AM
Nov 2012

His analysis of the polls in this case is way off, sadly. Again this looks like a bias thing. I have lived here since 1980 and worked the in Democratic Party since that time. Those who are calling it over have never been here and need some help understanding how the "ground game" thing works. You get people to go out and vote. They aren't persuaded by polls. They don't write columns for NYT or WAPO, or MSNBC to satisfy some ingrained attitudes about "Dixie". They are voting for their lives, their neighbors, their children, their parents and they are REAL people.

Take that lame attitude out and get it retreaded.



Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #15)

bornskeptic

(1,330 posts)
21. So you think MI and NM are swing states and NC isn't?
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:14 AM
Nov 2012

Whoever wins NC, the margin of victory will be less than that in NM, MI, and PA. The states which will be the closest are probably FL, CO, and NC.

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
23. If you read my previous posts you would know that NC is by definition a swing state.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 04:16 PM
Nov 2012

By the numbers and its recent previous history it has been all along, although some with limited vision have cast it otherwise.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
18. I'm very surprised that Nate has Obama that high in Ohio.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:54 AM
Nov 2012

I keep reading elsewhere that Obama is only 5 or 6 points ahead of Romney, and with the margin of error at 3 or 4%, that is still pretty close.

I might have to wait until late Tuesday afternoon before I start eating anymore popcorn.


bornskeptic

(1,330 posts)
22. Nate's being rather conserative on this.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:52 AM
Nov 2012

If Obama leads a poll by 5% when the margin of error is 4%, that means there is a 97.5% chance that Obama actually leads by 1% or more, and the chance that Romney actually leads is the same as the chance that Obama leads by more than 10%. Of course there are questions about sampling error, but if you accept that the sample is random, a 4% margin of error means that there is a 95% chance that the real number is within 4% of the measured number, with the other 5% evenly split in opposite directions.

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