I called it a fake video, and I got immediately banned from the Hillary group.

and bad choices.

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Obviously, if such a song had been played, it would have to have been a mistake on someone's part. Bernie is, and always has been, pro-LGBT rights. He leaves Hill and Trump completely in the dust on that issue.

Perhaps someone is hoping to alienate the LGBT vote? Desperate times call for desperate measures.

especially if he didn't put that song in the cue himself.

it's getting surreal.

Just when we think he's gone as low as he can go, now we see this.

They're either ignorant idiots or they they have no consciences.

I have fallen way short of the mark.

that got punked by Trump twice!

sort of big lie would help ease their agony

Here it is, Bernie Sanders coming out to DMX's "where the hood at" in Lancaster, Ca. #FeelTheBern #BernieSanders

Nice conspiracy there if you can prove it.

since the lyrics allegedly played weren't the least bit scandalous. I am pretty sue you didn't know the song before you read about it here either.

I have a hard time understanding much of his lyrics, I usually can get the hook though.

What do you think is more likely:

A) ABC isolated the audio of the song from and ripped it out(a painstakingly time consuming and expensive professional task).

B) Or a random youtube user, with dozens of rap uploads, overlaid the song on the video(anyone can do this quickly)?

I am genuinely curious what you think is more likely.


PS - Before you answer, which I am sure you will:

Fox's recording also does not have the song. So they would have had to do the same audio engineering.

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Anyone slightly entertaining scenario A is delusional.

It is inconceivable that Bernie would have such a song played at one of his rallies.

It is against what he believes in and it would be political suicide.

and I was immediately banned from their group.

I guess they're not interested over there in considering the possibility that the dirt they dig up on Bernie isn't true.

Everything's getting so nutsy. We deserve better!

hmmm. Damage control?

Y'all are going to look mighty foolish when it's all over.

the web.

And we "are going to look mighty foolish.."?

LOL

On them .

However could we figure this out!?!?!?!
Just...ask someone that was there...


And BTW I dunno if people know this but Music is copyrighted and sometimes people Mute videos so they don't get in trouble or play different songs. But yeah, whatever.

but in the overall realm, it's a non issue.

Bernie isn't on a stage yelling about superpredators or citing CP time or making comments about how someone is off the res, nor has he ran a 3am racist ad against POTUS.

it is nice to be aware.

Sometimes incompetency is simply incompetency.

Look at their channel

I'm guessing you have none. Sanders screwed up as usual.

I'm not obligated to believe that theory.

If you look at the youtube users' channel, they just seem like some random person who is really into rap and has been for a long time. Not a Hillary supporter

What is questionable is that americablog just ran with it without double checking their facts.

Her supporters though... hmmm.

The ABC version supplied by the Sanders Campaign, cut the crowd noise seconds into the music.
The fox version is muted.
The one with the DMX, you can hear both the music and the crowd shouting and chanting Bernie.

hmmm. Which one to believe?

hmmm.

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The video of the entire rally, now posted at the site the OP of the previous thread sourced the original ratfucking attempt from, shows the same candidate entrance footage with different music. That music is at a much more plausible relative volume compared to the crowd noise.

More tellingly, the few people rhythmically clapping and/or grooving to music in the first video are doing so at a noticeably different tempo from the song, which has a very prominent beat. People don't do that. Their motions, however, do match the music in the full-event video.

It's an obvious fake, a clumsy overdub. That OP should be deleted.

messaging.

At least they kinda sorta retracted it.

Too bad what they say about how a lie can spread around the world before the truth can put on its pants.

Ameriblog pointed out that other versions of the video, provided by the Sander's campaign have the candidate walking out to no music and no crowd noise and the other has a techno sound that is badly dubbed into the video....

Here is the original video posted on twitter. It is clear that the crowd and the background noise are all in sync....
https://twitter.com/Edwinprime

and train volunteers and do proper vetting he isn't qualified to be POTUS.

And that video was not made by his staff. It was made by this guy

https://www.youtube.com/user/NoahAyala/videos

The people that are guilty of not vetting are americablog and some posters here.

Then you must DESPISE Hilary Clinton!

And, as other people have pointed out, the ABC video doesn't have him using it. Even if one of his volunteers DID play part of the song, they didn't play the offensive part.

It's like I'm reliving 2008 all over again...

We don't yet know if this is a hoax, but what we do know is how many Sanders supporters here would be ok with him doing this if it isn't a hoax. That Bernie people here think this would be ok if true is among the most vile things I've seen here yet.

What is really disgusting is the Hillary camp attempting to make anything out of this at all.

We all have to wonder what else you would tolerate from his campaign.

that is a sign of incompetence.

A poster with an 11 day history denigrating people with more than 11 years.

So because this person has posted on this site longer, her excusing of bigotry is somehow more valid? Are you sure you want to lead with that argument?

April 30, 2015 -- just after Bernie announced his candidacy, this article appeared in The Advocate.

Excerpt:

Pool: what day will the hrc group finally drop this Brock creation?

Could be fun and educational.

like a modern version of the sirens, luring men to their destruction.

The choice of Bernie vs. Hillary could be a morality tale.

This article appeared in Vox on July, 2015.

Good article. Includes this important artifact from Bernie's younger days of political activism (note item #3):



http://www.vox.com/2015/7/7/8905905/sanders-drugs-gay-rights

Since the ABC video shows the same video, but with different music?

Or is ABC not trustworthy?

But Hill Folk want it to appear otherwise.

From The Hill, June 2015:

Almost everything they do is another lying smear attempt by Hillary supporters. What else have they got, except a lying, cheating, egotistical candidate facing several FBI investigations and a likely indictment for jeopardizing the entire security of OUR Nation?

Seems more likely that the video was reported on without being looked into.

From Huffpost Queer Voices, June 2015

Alternatively, some folks in the media picked up on the video that had the song and didn't bother to check to see if it was actually played at the event.

Clintonites actually altering the record to smear Bernie.

This is why I'm going to have such a hard time voting for her.

To hear the words, I find it very difficult to believe it was actually played at a rally - it's not like a staffer listening to it wouldn't understand the words - they are very clear.

Is that one of them is only tossed around here like kindergarten kids at recess while the other is not only being talked about internationally but it is an actual criminal investigation.

So long story short, this was a social experiment, and everyone seem to fall for it

http://americablog.com/2016/05/sanders-plays-kill-gays-rap-song-ca-rally.html

And no, the words of a person who was just caught in a major lie is not evidence. Documentation of his efforts to promote Sanders in the past is evidence.

When he admits he falsified a video why should I believe anything he says?

Do you have any evidence that he supported Bernie prior to today?

He has lots of pro-Bernie tweets and FB posts.

I don't mean that in a snarky way, I am just not personally interested in the story beyond what I already have read.

Seems like some oblique way to call me a liar? Besmirch my character?

I have other things I want to do on a Saturday night.

If you are interested in researching further, then you should research it.

We all have our priorities about what we want to research and when we want to do it.

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All I know is Bernie did not play this video at his rally.

That's pretty much enough for me, and I know anybody who beleives he would play such a song is a fool.

So I am gonna go have a beer with friends now

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If you want to dig deeper and get into the nitty gritty, you should! I will look forward to reading what you find.

BTW somebody posted a link below to the guys reasoning:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7386067/bernie-sanders-dmx-where-the-hood-at-video-fake

I have no reason to believe him when he says he is a Sanders supporter because what he did in no way benefits Sanders. He lied about the video and I believe he is lying when he claims to support Sanders.

His Twitter feed shows that he has been a Bernie supporter for a while, as does his Facebook page.

This OP is a lie.

Updates in americablog, including links to the guy who did it and why he did it.

Here you go:

http://americablog.com/2016/05/sanders-plays-kill-gays-rap-song-ca-rally.html

Blogger has updated his orig article.

Straight from Edwin Acuna's mouth.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7386067/bernie-sanders-dmx-where-the-hood-at-video-fake

The test was whether Hillary would push an obviously false story to gain a political advantage (you know, like she did by lying about Bernie's involvement in the civil rights movement OR lying about getting permission to use an unsecured server).

Hillary's grade?

FAIL

Not even a little bit.

Or is that socialist experiments? It's hard to keep track of what this campaign is doing these days.