2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBlitzer: "EVERYBODY Has Noticed That Obama's Crowds Are Smaller Than They Were In 2008"
Heard him say that on CNN earlier as I was surfing through channels.
Is CNN still on the air?
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)FVZA_Colonel
(4,096 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)than they were when they won in 2004.
It's just how it works - the first time event draws the biggest crowds, whether you're a baseball team winning their first WS in 76 years or the first black man heading to being elected president.
Anybody think Reagan drew bigger crowds when he ran for his second term than he did when he ran against Carter?
NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)Welcome_hubby
(312 posts)He's running against the guy with the smaller crowds (Romney).
The network that spent the afternoon after the first debate gushing how Romney "looked presidential." Apparently, to CNN lying to a national audience every 90 seconds and behaving like a bully is presidential. Hard to take anything they say seriously.
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)keeping his Republican fangs hidden.
mucifer
(23,550 posts)Some buses left at 6am. How many unpaid volunteers do that sort of thing for rmoney? I wonder how wolfie would answer that.
oh08dem
(339 posts)"I'll take 'It's not 2008 anymore' for a $1,000 Alex."
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Matthews and Fox both crush CNN Wolf Shitzer hours. Fuck him.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)[IMG][/IMG]
M'kay?
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)It was stunning to see how someone whose career is the news could have been so clueless on J.
I had not see this bit of info before today.
Learn something new every day!
ejbr
(5,856 posts)by earning about $70k, if I remember correctly.
fun clip:
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)What I used
#election2012 Wolf Blitzer's finest moment! ht-tp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h14/ejbr/blitzer.jpg
If you use it make sure to take the dash out between http so the link is good in twitter.
Faith9326
(304 posts)Tonight in Virginia.
People are still fired up for the President.
tblue
(16,350 posts)Clown.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)DakotaLady
(246 posts)if I go on a Mon Wed Fri - Fox if I dare go on a Tue Thu Sat or Sun.
Makes me crazy ... may have to get another iPod.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Grammy23
(5,810 posts)will start boarding or the weather ....... anything but CNN. Drives me nuts to have THAT as the only option. At least it's not Fox. That's about the only good thing.
Actually, the best part of a layover is people watching. Now that never gets boring or old. Always a parade.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)The truth hurts, doesn't it, Leslie?
DemKittyNC
(743 posts)RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)I always turn to CNN when something major is happeing in a confined area, such as the Aurora, CO shootings. Of the major 24X7 "news" channels, CNN has more local affiliates and can get the information more quickly than the others.
Other than those times, I only have it on my television when my wife turns it there.
That is usually the only time I watch CNN. I was on CNNs ass during the Hurricane Sandy coverage.
fugop
(1,828 posts)What a maroon. What an ultra maroon.
Kteachums
(331 posts)People find out the President is coming and they flank to where he is. What a crock of horsecrap! What is CNN doing?
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)speedoo
(11,229 posts)Poorest excuse for a journalist on CNN.. And the rest of CNN is pretty bad too.
TexasCPA
(527 posts)oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)next to Faux News. Neither exist for me.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)Blitzer is nuts!!
Wildcat1955
(69 posts)Is there anyone in the MSM worthy to watch or listen to? It seems that everyone has been critiqued. Surely someone must have the respect of the Progressive community.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Are you defending or agreeing with Blitzer? Do you consider yourself part of the Progressive community or are you taking a swipe at the Progressive community?
I'm not sure I get your point.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)BlueInPhilly
(870 posts)I don't think anyone else is left. Honestly.
marlakay
(11,476 posts)no other media is fair except Dan Rather on HDNET. And Current.
They only got Obama in because they liked the excitement of a black president and wanted him to deal with all the crap they caused.
Now that the crap is cleaner they want it back
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lib87
(535 posts)Obama needs to take a page from Romney's playbook and learn how to copy and paste in crowds so they appear even larger!
muntrv
(14,505 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)quaker bill
(8,224 posts)The venues they are selecting are relatively easy to secure and have limits for seating. If you recall from 2008, many more events were open air in massive green spaces with loads of advance notice to get people out. They wanted the optics of huge crowds to sell the message last time. Everyone knows the message and the messenger this time out, so I am pretty sure the focus has been on GOTV, and some of the free wheeling bit has been surrendered in the name of security.
Lightsource777
(78 posts)I thought the crowds were TIED?
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)He should be on Faux - he belongs with the rest of the liars.
barnabas63
(1,214 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Anybody notice that Dirty Mittens has NO crowds????
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)Every rally Obama attends is classified as a NSE by virtue of his presence from a security standpoint.
I have no doubt this is one reason the crowds have been smaller. A 70,000 person rally would be very challenging for the secret service. The bigger the crowd the bigger the strain on the secret service and local law enforcement. And having many that size back to back to back during the height of the campaign would make it even more challenging.
I also believe the campaign is on the hook for some of the costs associated with security.
But Blitzer wouldn't bother to consider any of those circumstances.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...are smaller this year? Give me a break.
Oh, by the way, every presidential candidate is guarded by the Secret Service and local law enforcement.
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)1. Calm down.
2. Obama's crowd in his final rally of 2008 was 70,000. They have not had a 70k rally during the last couple months of the campaign. And that's OKAY.
3. My point was now that he is president the level of security is considerably higher than it was when he was a candidate. I offered that as a possible reason for not having 70k-100k rallies.
Let me ask you something, does Romney travel with 1-2 decoy helicopters as the president does when he flies aboard Marine One? Is his campaign plane anything on the level of Air Force 1? Surely you're not saying the level of security is the same for a nominee as it is for a president? A child would understand the difference.
5. Please don't speak to me as though you are tweeting Wolf Blitzer. In other words, don't be such an obtuse tool.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...and tell you the exact same thing as I did previously. You don't like it? Too bad, so sad.
Until you set up your own board with your own rules, you're not going to treat me like you're the mod and/or admin of THIS board.
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)LOLZ at someone who can't understand the difference between the level of security for a president and a party nominee. I've officially seen it all.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)Mrloserpunk
(41 posts)Romney events would be a NSE as well wouldn't they?
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)He isn't traveling in Air Force 1 and he doesn't have an armada of security assets deployed wherever he goes. He doesn't have the football. He gets full protection but it's not on the level of what a sitting president would get.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)Maybe you have Romnesia?