2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNEWS FLASH TO DIFI. There are TWICE the number of pages in the IG report!!
She says she read half of it, and claims to know everything there is to know!
Time to primary her.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,873 posts)along with the DNC, the Obamas, Morgan Freeman, Cong Jim Clyburn, Barney Frank, etc etc
A very long list.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Nothing new.
annavictorious
(934 posts)And your side is sounding more and more like Tea Party 2.0 every day.
I say we should primary pork-loving senators who waste money on trillion dollar, killing machine boondoggles that even the Department of Defense says we don't need.
Let's run a real Democrat like Dr. Dean.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/09/bernie-sanders-loves-this-1-trillion-war-machine.html
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)nolabels
(13,133 posts)I am not sure why she hasn't retired either. She is not doing any favors for her constituents or herself
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Awesome political strategy!!!!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)To call DiFi a "popular Dem" is a bit of a stretch.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I'm gonna take from your answer that no, you've never actually been to California. Which is a shame, Philly. I mean, it's a really amazing place.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... not a smart idea to attack her right before the primary next week.
But please, by all means ... don't listen to me!!!
Attack her ... hard!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I don't think too many of our primary voters are going to get excited about Sanders people criticizing her.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)So who won 2 years ago...it seems I slept through it
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)I'm not part of the group saying she should be "primaried".
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Is the Willie Brown Rule. I am serious as a heart attack.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...
Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"
Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"
Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Again ... attack DIFI and BBox ... it will definitely help Bernie.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)WTF, is this grade school?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Believe me, Primarying DiFi not a new or terribly radical idea.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The only reason she gets no primary is the Willy Brown rule
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... she comes up for re-election.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I live here...highly undemocratic. And there are rumors she will announce her retirement soon. Free clue, before 2018
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I like both of my current Senators just fine.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)pmorlan1
(2,096 posts)She only read the pages that didn't discuss Hillary.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)ever say in my life. Does that woman think that people live under the same rock she does? She read all 42 pages and cleared Hillary on that? Ladies and gentlemen those words come from the mouth of a United States Senator. Now you know why things in this country are so fucked up.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Too flawed and compromised to represent Democrats.
annavictorious
(934 posts)do you feel foolish rolling around on the floor like that?
Autumn
(45,120 posts)and there is a lot of important information in there starting back om 05. Feinstein read 42 pages, that's like baking a cake using only half the ingredients.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)I believe her being factual about the length of the report won't influence your wish to primary her.
Have you ever encountered a Democrat you liked?
The report (and you could read it - it's only half as long as you think!):
https://oig.state.gov/system/files/esp-16-03.pdf
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Bernie.
My Senator Jeff Merkley.
Elizabeth Warren.
And many others. I have voted for Democrats all my life.
annavictorious
(934 posts)there goes my narrative!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And footnotes....
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Sanders and Feinstein!
"Enough!"
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And I suspect it will. Scandals are independent of political calendars. For our sake, better fall before the convention. You guys will have to decide whether you will put your party or country ahead.
That will be an amazing psychological moment
annavictorious
(934 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)annavictorious
(934 posts)Your new to this, aren't you.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And no, I am not new to this.
But you most be from your stupid comentary.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)I bet if she stopped reading on page 42 or 47 since you seem to think that the appendixes were just filler, she may have missed this on page 64
accordance with agency recordkeeping practices.93 In 2015, NARA issued guidance on
managing other forms of electronic messaging, including social media and texts.94
On August 28, 2014, the Under Secretary for Management sent a memorandum to the Office of
the Secretary, all Under Secretaries and Assistant Secretaries, and a number of other offices to
remind them of their responsibility for creating, managing, and preserving records regardless of
physical format or media. It noted that records may exist in many formats, including Instant
Messages (IM) and records on mobile devices like BlackBerrys, mobile phones, and iPads. It also
included specific requirements relating to emails, including:
At no time during designated senior officials tenure will their e-mail accounts be cleared,
deleted, or wiped for any reason.
While senior officials may delete personal e-mails, they should be aware that the
definition of a personal e-mail is very narrow. The only e-mails that are personal are
those that do not relate to or affect the transaction of Government business.
As a general matter, to ensure a complete record of their activities, senior officials should
not use their private e-mail accounts (e.g., Gmail) for official business. If a senior official
uses his or her private email account for the conduct of official business, she or he must
ensure that records pertaining to official business that are sent from or received on such
e-mail account are captured and maintained. The best way to ensure this is to forward
incoming emails received on a private account to the senior officials State account and
copy outgoing messages to their State account.
annavictorious
(934 posts)Is your complaint that Clinton didn't follow guidance for those currently in tenure issued two years after she left the State Department?
Autumn
(45,120 posts)employees not to remove any papers until they had been reviewed. They also stated that e-mail
messages must generally be printed out and filed with related paper records.
On January 15, 2009, the Under Secretary for Management issued a memorandum to all Under
Secretaries, Assistant Secretaries, Executive Directors, and Post Management Officers on
Preserving Electronically the Email of Senior Officials upon their Departure. The memorandum
required bureaus to copy the email accounts of senior departing officials onto CDs and deliver
those CDs to IPS. The requirement was applicable to political appointees, not career staff, and
was put in place to supplement the traditional print and file policy for record email.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)On August 28, 2014, the Under Secretary for Management sent a memorandum...
Autumn
(45,120 posts)and she was in office then.
I
employees not to remove any papers until they had been reviewed. They also stated that e-mail
messages must generally be printed out and filed with related paper records.
On January 15, 2009, the Under Secretary for Management issued a memorandum to all Under
Secretaries, Assistant Secretaries, Executive Directors, and Post Management Officers on
Preserving Electronically the Email of Senior Officials upon their Departure. The memorandum
required bureaus to copy the email accounts of senior departing officials onto CDs and deliver
those CDs to IPS. The requirement was applicable to political appointees, not career staff, and
was put in place to supplement the traditional print and file policy for record email.
Statutory and Regulatory Requirements for Email Records Preservation: The requirements in the
Federal Records Act of 1950 had not changed. In October 2009, NARA published a final rule that
revised and reorganized its records management regulations.
69 The existing requirements were
largely retained, but renumbered.70 New responsibilities were added to agencies records
program duties, including assigning records management responsibilities in each
program/mission to ensure incorporation of recordkeeping requirements into agency
programs.71 The new section on managing email records required preservation of email
attachments that are an integral part of the record.
72 It also stated:
Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages
using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or
received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping
system.73
FAM and FAH Requirements for Email Records Preservation: The requirements in the FAM and
FAH generally had not changed.
Other Preservation Guidance: In June 2009, the Department sent an announcement regarding
preservation of email messages.74 It reminded employees of the requirement to preserve email
records, citing the FAM and C.F.R. provisions, and noted that, until SMART becomes available,
employees must print and file emails that are Federal records.
In November 2009, the Department sent a cable to all embassies and posts and an
announcement to all employees reminding them that all Department employees have records
management responsibilities.75 It noted that Federal records can be found in any media
including e-mail, instant messages, social media, etc.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Longstanding, systemic weaknesses related to electronic records and communications have existed within the Office of the Secretary that go well beyond the tenure of any one Secretary of State. OIG recognizes that technology and Department policy have evolved considerably since Secretary Albrights tenure began in 1997. Nevertheless, the Department generally and the Office of the Secretary in particular have been slow to recognize and to manage effectively the legal requirements and cybersecurity risks associated with electronic data communications, particularly as those risks pertain to its most senior leadership. OIG expects that its recommendations will move the Department steps closer to meaningfully addressing these risks.
This is it!
There is nothing more!
Anything else belongs in the DU 'Creative Speculation Group'!
Autumn
(45,120 posts)repeatedly for over a year.
TwilightZone
(25,479 posts)Unlike about 80% of DU.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)and reported it did not originate with Hillary, was not identified as "classified" material and was not at all resolved as an FOIA issue.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)pages 47 to end contain the relevant laws and regulations she broke and a review of her predecessors actions - if you don't read those, you can't understand the acts that generated report.
Not so clever, by half.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)or recommendation or resolution mentions Hillary Clinton.
So - that is the OIG report.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)That's why neither you nor DiFi seem to have a clue about what this is all about.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)put Hillary's "criminal" activity in footnotes in appendices.
An anonymous blogger told me so!
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Where are they in the document? Why are they placed there? Do you know what a footnote is?
Explain.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Which is a great and interesting work of fiction.
Until next time, "Good night!"
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)hellfire will rain down on the Bern....he is already toast in Congress.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)She most have gotten the cliffs, and friendly, version
annavictorious
(934 posts)And she read it. Too bad the OP didn't before he made his ridiculous claim.
Any relation to the odious Mika and Count Chocula?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And the OP is correct. DiFi thinks this is 1990 and outside the elite news Corp, none can check on her
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)Most of the report is appendixes. Thank you for the laughs
grasswire
(50,130 posts)The report is being described by all news media as 85 pages. If she didn't read the appendix, she's lazy or lying.
Mike Nelson
(9,966 posts)...to read a lot of inside information. If the email story was going places, her recent statements are not the smoke signal or tea leaf Hillary's political enemies should be expecting.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)...and people who don't remember are still able to find out her perfidy.
pansypoo53219
(20,995 posts)XRubicon
(2,212 posts)I want to make a list.
1. Wasserman Schultz
2. Feinstein
3. ???
grasswire
(50,130 posts)The electorate has changed. Did you not see? Americans are sick and tired of establishment politics. Throw the bums out.
Even, very sadly, my senator Ron Wyden. He has betrayed his supporters by endorsing the TPP and Clinton.
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)This is good. Let's keep this going.
I want Bernie/supporters here to name Democrats they want to primary.