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Zynx

(21,328 posts)
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:22 AM Nov 2012

Obama will win re-election with between 303 and 347 EVs. Senate a wash. House +14.

I think that's what we're looking at here.

Florida and North Carolina will be decided by less than a percentage point each and the two are both ground game slugfests at this point. Obama's overall popular vote margin will probably be in the 3-3.5% range.

With the Senate, we'll pick off ME and MA with a probable addition of IN. Offsetting this will be losses in NE and ND with WI and MT being coin flips. This will work out to a wash or +1 or -1. Either way, it doesn't much matter.

I think that we'll substantially narrow the house majority the Republicans enjoy with quite a bit of churn in terms of pickups and losses.

For the one area people haven't talked much about, state legislative races, I think that we'll win a net of +600 to +700 seats.

That's my prediction.

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Obama will win re-election with between 303 and 347 EVs. Senate a wash. House +14. (Original Post) Zynx Nov 2012 OP
Your U.S. Senate predictions look pretty accurate TroyD Nov 2012 #1
I thought the senate was looking at a gain of Cosmocat Nov 2012 #6
Still crossing my fingers for ND, WI and MT. DFW Nov 2012 #2
Your mouth, God's ears and all that. But count thee no chickens. Squinch Nov 2012 #3
I See.... Iggy Nov 2012 #4
I give him Ohio because that's what all of the evidence shows. Zynx Nov 2012 #19
OK, thanks Iggy Nov 2012 #22
There is an argument that says it is better to be in the minority by a few votes BlueStreak Nov 2012 #5
I predict 281. No way we win 347! No way we win NC. Logical Nov 2012 #7
Your being too pessmetic Robbins Nov 2012 #9
Florida has a small shot. No one thinks North Carolina is in play for Obama. Nate says 80% Romney. Logical Nov 2012 #10
Um Robbins Nov 2012 #11
Well, MO was polling withing the margin of error in 2008. NC is not. And I will admit I am being.... Logical Nov 2012 #12
Yes but Robbins Nov 2012 #13
IMO NC is a special case where the Obama ground game abumbyanyothername Nov 2012 #16
Three reputable polls in thelast ten days have NC tied. bornskeptic Nov 2012 #21
And we (NC) are going to prove Nate and all the other pollsters wrong! mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #14
Believe me I hope you do!! And appreciate your work! I worked MO in 2008 and we lost by 1%. But it.. Logical Nov 2012 #15
Correct SLCLiberal Nov 2012 #18
I am going to be so happy to say "na na I told you so" come Election night. mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #20
Would you care to make that an "official" prediction? Coyotl Nov 2012 #8
293 that's my prediction underpants Nov 2012 #17

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
1. Your U.S. Senate predictions look pretty accurate
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:25 AM
Nov 2012

And appear to reflect the growing consensus out there.

I don't know enough about the state legislative races to comment, but picking up that number seems like quite a lot!

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
6. I thought the senate was looking at a gain of
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:07 AM
Nov 2012

a seat or two?

I think the House pickups is about in the right range.

I will be VERY happy if BO can show a 3% popular gain advantage.

I think in REALITY the President will win Florida, but that Scott and company will turn it into an absolute clusterscrew, and it very well might not be called for a while, and unless it breaks a little more toward the President might go to Romney. I think unlike Ohio, the margin there will be small enough they can figure out how to swing it away from the President as they go along.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
2. Still crossing my fingers for ND, WI and MT.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:27 AM
Nov 2012

NV would be nice, too--rejection of teabaggers must start sooner rather than later.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
19. I give him Ohio because that's what all of the evidence shows.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:48 PM
Nov 2012

The evidence is conflicted on Florida, but tight. North Carolina I think will go to Romney, but I'm not ruling it out.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
22. OK, thanks
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:36 PM
Nov 2012

again, OH is crucial. I know there's all sorts of convoluted formulas regarding how one wins the election w/o OH... but I'm not buying it. You have to win OH.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
5. There is an argument that says it is better to be in the minority by a few votes
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:06 AM
Nov 2012

in the House rather than being in the majority by a few votes.

I don't know that I agree with that because the Speaker does have a lot of advantages, and a majority allows asshats like Issa to have a megaphone.

But legislatively if Boehner has a majority around +10, he has a huge problem on his hands, and effectively the only way he can get anything passed into law is by breaking with teabaggers and teaming with some Democrats.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
9. Your being too pessmetic
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:27 AM
Nov 2012

Obama will get more than 281.NC remains In play.Florida and NC I won't predict but Obama will win other swing states.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
10. Florida has a small shot. No one thinks North Carolina is in play for Obama. Nate says 80% Romney.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:33 AM
Nov 2012

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
11. Um
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:45 AM
Nov 2012

NC Is still swing state.Early voting has been going very well.Non conservative polls have good results for Obama.

Nate can be wrong about specific states.

2008-he had Obama winning MO and losing Indiana

200-He had republicans winning senate races In Nevada and COlorado and democrat winning senate race In Illinois

But,let's say Nate Is totally right that still gives Obama 303 electoral votes not 281 you listed.

Early voting has been goin very well.Independents are moving to Obama,and already some signs are that dems are getting registered voters to polls.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
12. Well, MO was polling withing the margin of error in 2008. NC is not. And I will admit I am being....
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:53 AM
Nov 2012

Conservative on my prediction.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
13. Yes but
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:58 AM
Nov 2012

Non republican polls have shown It better for Obama.Takes RAS,Mason Dixen,and Gravis out and It Is close In NC.

Still In My prediction I am not calling eather Florida or NC.

abumbyanyothername

(2,711 posts)
16. IMO NC is a special case where the Obama ground game
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:08 PM
Nov 2012

is blowing up the likely voter model that many of the polls that Nate relies on are using.

The field offices in NC are getting people to vote for Obama who not only are not likely voters but who aren't, prior to their vote, even registered voters.

I believe Obama will carry NC and when he does it will become a textbook case study for years to come.

bornskeptic

(1,330 posts)
21. Three reputable polls in thelast ten days have NC tied.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 01:38 PM
Nov 2012

Other than Rasmussen and Gravis Marketing, the only poll in that period showing Romney ahead is one SurveyUSA poll. Going back farther, NC has been virtually tied for months. Neither candidate will carry it by more than 2%.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
15. Believe me I hope you do!! And appreciate your work! I worked MO in 2008 and we lost by 1%. But it..
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:07 PM
Nov 2012

did make McCain keep resources in MO and it helped nationwide.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
20. I am going to be so happy to say "na na I told you so" come Election night.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 01:16 PM
Nov 2012

Yes we are turning NC Blue--again!

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
8. Would you care to make that an "official" prediction?
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:26 AM
Nov 2012

***** Official Pre-Election Electoral College Vote = Predictions Thread *****
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021644060
It's not official w/o the five stars (and a cartoon, please).

underpants

(182,829 posts)
17. 293 that's my prediction
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:13 PM
Nov 2012

that is with Romney winning Fla and NC and Iowa (I am being charitable) and Colorado and 1 in NH
Obama wins VA and all the other battleground states

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