2016 Postmortem
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(99,714 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)There are bad elements and there are misguided people as there are in all groups, but Sanders supporters are our friends, partners, and allies. As a group we only have each other. No one else cares.
I'd rather have a DU full of honest and enthusiastic Sanders supporters than a DU full of stiffs that are here to trash people and rub it in.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)have called me a "Republican", a "Third Wayer", a "corporatist" and a "paid David Brock poster" a friend of mine. There is disagreeing with one's opinion and there is personal attacks. They chose the road of personal attacks. In so doing, I do not share the same goals and values with the likes of them. Did I clear that up for you ?
Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)I've endured the insults and abuse. One of the biggest problems this cycle has been the lack of respect. It comes straight from the top of Sanders campaign. But I've been through this before. The campaign will pass and life will go on. Your opponents today are your friends tomorrow. Many are the same people that support Bernie got Obama elected, fought for equality, sent flowers to Barbara Boxer, marched against the wars.
Do you know that there are Clinton supporters this time that were Obama supporters last time? Did you know that there are former Clark and Dean supporters that fought tooth and nail in 2004 and fought together in 2008? That's the way it goes. It's better to focus on the big picture. Winning the primary is nice. Winning the GE matters. Getting a guaranteed Supreme Court justice changes things. Grudges don't.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Obama-Clinton circumstance that I've seen forwarded many times on DU. The political disparities between Hillary supporters and Sanders supporters are much greater than what we experienced with Obama and Hillary. These "new people" that Sanders attracted are very different in temperament IMO.
betsuni
(25,646 posts)demmiblue
(36,898 posts)Thank you.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)people who have insinuated that I'm not really biracial, people who've called me racist, misogynistic, libertarian, tea partier, privileged(now that one's a laugh, since when is an E-4 in the military anything CLOSE to privileged) and the like are not my friends. There is a VERY large contingent of people who I've come to realize are my enemies, and it'd take a miracle on par with the second coming of a deity I haven't even believed in since I was 15 for me to consider them even close to an ally of mine.
They struck me, I struck back and removed them from my line of sight.
LoverOfLiberty
(1,438 posts)who are not our allies. They will only vote Democratic if Sanders is on the ticket.
These are the posters who will flee after June 16th.
Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)Not much we can do for the dead ender types
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)It goes both ways. I have been a happy, paying member of DU for many years, and have done my part both here (as a moderator, host and member of MIRT) and on the streets, campaigning for Democrats from Bill Clinton on through Bernie. After this primary season (thanks, in part, to some of her more vocal, distasteful supporters) I don't want to be part of campaigning for a candidate (Hillary) who doesn't care about working-class women like me. I can't knock on a door and sell someone I don't believe in. Republicans do that. Not me.
Sorry, but I am an ally to actual Democratic values, and no, that doesn't make me a scary "bad" person.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)demmiblue
(36,898 posts)will need to stop bashing each other." - Skinner
It will be nice to tame the Yellow Button Brigade.
mac56
(17,574 posts)Eyedoan geddit.
demmiblue
(36,898 posts)mac56
(17,574 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)on my page, but then again I am no longer a star member since DU jumped on board the Hillary train. Never even knew about "that yellow button" before this mention of it though.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)As far as I know, the convention is in late July, and there will be no nominee to get behind until then.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512100266
As far as DU goes? If the worst happens and Clinton ends up the nominee, I won't be talking about her at all on DU. I don't have much to say now.
That picture, though? That ain't happening. I am not going to be celebrating, or uniting with, neo-liberals.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Skinner has declared he will no longer tolerate the bullshit and DU will be 100% on a GE footing as of that date.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)woodsprite
(11,927 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)99% of the anti-Hillary crap will have to go because none of it meets the criteria as laid out in that post.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)I never really saw them before. MAN! They look as thick as pants.
FSogol
(45,529 posts)brooklynite
(94,745 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)http://davidbyrne.com/the-echo-chamber
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Acting in a manner that helps Donald Trump defeat Hillary Clinton seems like a very reasonable kind of obnoxious, toxic behavior to prohibit at a Democratic website.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)hellyall
(9 posts)n/t
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I don't view very occasional use as being too bad. The joy overcomes the risk.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)FSogol
(45,529 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Pretty soon, your slander won't fly anymore.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Not to mention her innate corruption.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Donald Trump is "Bernie or Bust".
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)FSogol
(45,529 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)On Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:59 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Democratic Underground, June 16, 2016...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2100489
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
So we have an upset user that is calling the DU a bunch of Communists. Isn't this the type of stuff that Skinner would like to clear out sooner rather than later?
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:06 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter misread the content of the political poster in the alerted post. Is that clear or have I used post and poster in confusing ways?
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh Noes! Not the TRUTH!
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think it is time for this post to leave the site. DU is a business. A private business. No one is forced to be here. The Admin of this site making the best decision they can for their business does not reflect on America at large. A broad attack on the site by tying it a Dictatorial Conspiracy strikes me as someone who no longer believes in the Democratic Party - or the Democratic Underground. I wish this poster well. They need a new home on the internet.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter is over-reaching. This is a really silly alert.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I practically am a Communist (a socialist, for sure), and the image was using old-school communist stylings to ridicule corporatism. So a comprehension fail led to an alert fail. Fucking priceless...
fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)This is the way a good leader works!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027872266
FSogol
(45,529 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)BTW do you know the history and current popular view of that picture you're using as a celebratory device?
FSogol
(45,529 posts)You going -splain something to me?
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)At least one of DU's BIGGEST Hillary supporters hates that picture.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018207201#post2
FSogol
(45,529 posts)One day mankind will think we were the biggest cretins in history because of all the fossil fuels we burned.
Here's a good sign you are in a bubble:
so what?
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)and the other half gloats, briefly.
FSogol
(45,529 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)FSogol
(45,529 posts)Am I suspect too?
pinebox
(5,761 posts)I meant it at face value. Not a pejorative sarcastic attack.
Suspect? Why would you be suspect of anything? Who cares if you do.
FSogol
(45,529 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)and can no longer tell when someone is being real with you vs when someone is being an asshole.
Here's a rope. Climb for fresh air.
FSogol
(45,529 posts)pinebox (R)
Seriously, I'm sorry you're projecting and unable to bait me into an argument while obviously misinterpreting what I said.
As far as the (R). That's interesting. I wasn't aware that Republicans were for things like cities turning things like long standing and abandoned buildings into homeless shelters that are apartments & which also happen to offer free eduction and are self reliable with huge gardens for a food supply. I also wasn't aware that Republicans were for things like a basic income for every person in America that everyone gets.
But if you want to go with that, please be my guest.
mac56
(17,574 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)Some need to get out their bunker it seems
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Those who are content to see Clinton lose to Trump are a discredited fringe.