reason to rub it in.

Indiana voted for Bernie, but all the super delegates are voting for Clinton = SHAM

in Cali... They better fucking match pretty close with the results....

and that it would be nice if our candidate could show even the slightest ability to generate enthusiasm.

... to get people off their asses to go out and vote for her.

Bernie? Not so much.

If the voting machines are rigged they would love it. Some have admitted it that winning is everything. Well as you can see from the photos, Sanders is the People's candidate and Clinton is Goldman-Sachs bought and paid for candidate (gave her over $1 million dollars).

Isn't Bernie the one who is trying to negotiate backroom deals to get the superdelegates to overturn Hillary's lead among pledged delegates and the popular vote?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-woo-superdelegates-long-shot-bid-nomination/story?id=39571562

Even if Sanders were to win a significant number of the pledged delegates in the large states that vote next week like New Jersey and California, he would then need to convince a few hundred superdelegates to switch their allegiances from Clinton in order to win the nomination.

The Senator said they will spend time after next Tuesday lobbying those top party players before they place their votes at the Democratic National Convention in July.

Sanders said his campaign had starting contacting superdelegates and would continue to do so “on a more individual basis” after the big primaries next week.

Clinton. Before the first debate. They get their campaign money from Clinton's DNC and know they don't want to piss off Hillary or DWS. It's a system built to keep out progressives because progressives fight for the People and the Establishment works for the major corporations.

Either you support the People with Bernie Sanders or the major corporations with Hillary Clinton.

Look at the settings. Could Hillary's be more depressing?

Monterey is on the coast, has a strong tourist-oriented economy, generally more prosperous than Salinas. Salinas is inland, poorer, has a not as well-educated population. I think is says a lot about the differences in the two campaigns.

Salinas has a better brew pub, though

Hillary 3 Million more votes than Bernie.

LOL

States she zero chance of winning in the GE.

How many independent voters were shut out of voting in the 11 states that have closed primaries?

When most voters were registered Republicans and Democrats, closed primaries were justified to prevent party raiding. But now, 43% of voters are registered as independents, more than registered Republicans or Democrats. That adds up to roughly 100 Million voters.

Indies pretty much split 50/50 in 2012, so if we go with the same proportion this year, that's about 50 Million who will probably vote for the Democrat, whoever it is. I realize Clinton would have picked up some indie votes, but Sanders would have also. The question is, how many? I don't know, but neither does anyone else.

Alaska, Oklahoma, Utah, Wyoming, Kansas, Nebraska and Idaho. I mean if we're discounting states that will be voting Republican in 2016. Or are those different somehow?

And how are you doing today?

Guess I'm one of the ones planning to go down with the ship.

Nothing personal, you understand.

for now.

Sorry for that. I'm caught up in this crap.

Dont mean to be so abrasive.

Sorry.

Sorry about the hide. I accept your apology. But, I'm sorry I can't do nothing about the hide.

And some day we will fix the rigged election system so that the total that support the Peoples candidate will show up in the total votes.

How sad that some Democrats (the Corporate Democrats) would brag about winning a rigged election. Sell your soul to win.

Instead of a caucus, Bernie would be even further behind. In Washington state only 5.8% showed up at the caucus, and Bernie won. We also had a primary, for show only with Democrats, but in that primary Hillary won with around 56%. I agree we need to fix things and get rid of caucuses. The "rigged" system helped Bernie.

All of the caucuses across the state had 72 - 75% Sanders votes. And you are saying the Hillary voters just didn't show up.

The primary we had meant nothing literally. Why would any Democrat vote?

Having caucuses isn't a rigged system. Not like disenfrancing thousands by changing their registrations. Now that's voter fraud. Notice it only happened for Sanders supporters. Hmmm.

excellent post and so true!

Vs Bernie. Hillary represents 2/3rds or more! Bernie loses by all metrics.

Crowd size and exit polls mean nothing. Go figure.

A "big" rally is 50,000 people. A "big" state primary turnout is a million people (and CA will be much bigger than that). 50,000 isn't even a rounding error in a turnout that big. Why would you think a big rally matters?

What does the ability to get 50,000 people to show up at an arena have to do with the ability to get a million people to the polls? That's not even the same sport, let alone the same ballpark.

about her Town Halls when she has 3 m. more votes than Sanders.

Sanders screwed up by having big rallies and not smaller events. Clinton ran circles around him by having smaller events and it PAID OFF BIG TIME!!

She will need feet on the ground to win the GE. The feet on the ground come from people who have attended large rallies, people who are enthusiastic and committed. Study the Obama machine that worked miracles on the ground . How? With many feet!

As evidenced by the primaries. And by the way, she intentionally held smaller events.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-gambles-choosing-small-events-over-huge-rallies-n575311

This is wholly intentional. Aides have characterized the tactic as one of the biggest "gambles" of the campaign and the closer she gets to clinching the Democratic nomination, the more vindicated they feel in taking this approach.

Smaller, more intimate events, aides argue, allow voters to see a different side of Clinton that doesn't always come across in more traditional campaign settings.

I wish her well.

Seems like she's on the right track.

She won't have enough to win the GE without the people. Good luck. I'm sure it will work. No worries.

Big crowds don't equal votes. Sanders lost because he didn't get enough votes, but thankfully on June 16th all these silly arguments will be done with. At least on this site, lol.

In Republican majority states people will have to bang on doors, call and have events for Hill to even have a shot. You are thinking Dem voters and need to move to a new dimension. Who is silly? Did you work for Obama in the trenches? If you had you would not bray like this.

Sanders held rallies instead of doing superior groundwork like Clinton and lost.

I'm sure there's a percent out there somewhere that agrees with you.

Seniors faithfully vote conservative all right, but they don't canvass or phone bank at anywhere near the level required for a GE campaign.

Obama had the youth whose feet enthusiastically pounded the pavement for him.

Bernie has young enthusiastic feet burning up the pavement, phone banking and texting for him.

Hillary just has people whose feet burn.

They will only learn the hard way at our expense!

That's no conspiracy, that's just how it is.

and they still fail to see that # of people sanding around to hear a speech doesn't correlate to # of voters who actually are committed enough to make it to the ballot box.

This, most than most other reasons, is why Sanders lost the primary.

I'm sure even Bernie Sanders would rather take 'small crowds and winning' over 'big rallies and losing'.

The large crowds don't equate to actual votes because the system is rigged. We know the Wealthy rig elections like in 2000 and 2004. And now again in 2016. But to corporatists winning is the ultimate even if you have to sell your souls.

actually something.

Corp-Media and then think you can gloat. Anyone can side with the bullies. Just don't try to pretend you actually care about the 2.5 million homeless American children. Goldman-Sachs profits must be way more important. And plez don't try to say that even though Hillary is one of the Wealthy 1% with her $150,000,000 and beholden to the major corporations that she will think about the 16 million children living in poverty.

Why don't you side with those fighting for those suffering among us? Too hard? Easier to side with the billionaire bullies.

If they were slightly better written and more compelling, I'd swear you were auditioning to be an Occupy Harlequin Romance writer.

Until that glorious day comes, I'll just continue believing that your posts are the most overheated, pointless and embarrassing noise on this web site. And that is TRULY saying something.

Again childish.

who doesn't dare support the losing candidate for the Democratic nominee as you do and then want to sit openmouthed and shocked that most of the moderately intelligent people on this board have no interest in you or your perpetual, never ending whining.

Perhaps if you were to at least dignify yourself and everyone else with some new "rhetoric" instead of the same stuff you've been boringly and relentless spewing for the last decade, the responses may be a bit different?

Indy voters on how to get the right ballots, and their lawsuit was the result of that screw up. They should have started telling people much earlier. Today someone made a "helpful" OP explaining that if your registration was not correct yet there was still time to fix it for the general election! Because you know.... That's helpful. Oh vey.

this. He had not come anywhere near to building the relationships he needed with the TRUE Democratic base, his legislative accomplishments were a bit too flimsy and he started running, and touting said accomplishments, too late.

Conventional wisdom says he should have started running/putting himself out there at least a year earlier. And you are absolutely right, instead of spending money on advertising -- remember that boring, universally panned, vanilla as hell "America" ad?? -- it appears he needed to spend ALOT more time and money on educating his supporters on how to do something other than give him money.

And they seem to be all chatty and beating around the bush before they ID themselves. You'd die laughing if you saw their descriptions of the conversations. Not well trained to call the east coast!

Blocks to fair voting are the problem. For some un explainable reason these blocks have worked in Hills favor. That is a fact!

All that stuff is routinely distributed to voters- along with those voting guide cards that people were also bitching about here- all that works to get people to the polls. Better than tweets.
I know a lot of my Berner friends - many have been to a rally or two and none volunteered. They post on FB instead. Bad strategy.



Well that's an issue many Dems are working on but it's the states and also....
People who change the rules also contribute to the problem.

Chance to change things. But polling places can change frequently in cities, always good practice to vote every time and verify details if you're showing up at the last minute. When I moved polling places the new one functioned much better. The old one, the people were a mess and could never find my name in the books. So I helped them find my name
every time. I was in no position to replace the poll workers so we did our best to circumvent their shenanigans. It was literally the only way to make sure I voted.

I observed a recount several years ago. The precincts were preselected and all materials opened before the observers arrived. It looked like they had already been through the tapes before we arrived. Go figure. There is no poll book anymore. We sign in on a machine. All done on Diebold machines that were deemed easily hackable by our SOS. Things are grim in Ohio. I only vote on paper. Walk in and deliver it. But they don't have a tally of how many votes get deposited in a day so it is not safe either.

Emergencies shutting down the busiest polling places. Very very corrupt. Is very hard to eliminate al of it.

But it's a scary daunting place to get involved in politics. At least it's very liberal though!

I can't wait to vote for him in the GE against Trump.

Maybe worth reflecting on.

Another miracle of social media