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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWe can’t have more of the same: The very real dangers of Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy
Trump may well be dangerous. But know what you're getting with Hillary: American hegemony that's hated worldwideJust what we needed: another foreign policy speech from Candidate Clinton. This one arrived last Thursday in San Diegowell-chosen ground, given the Navys immense base on the citys shore and the Marine Expeditionary Force garrisoned at Camp Pendleton. It has a long military tradition, San Diego, and the projection of American power is what drives the local economy. Perfect for Clinton. Her speech to this crew-cutted, right-wing town was, of course, majoras all of her speeches on the foreign side cannot help but be.
Clintons people advised the press beforehand that, major or not, this presentation was not intended to break any new groundno new positions, no new policy initiatives or ideas. This hardly had to be explained, of course: Hillary Clinton has no new ideas on American foreign policy. That is not her product. Clinton sells continuity, more of the same only more of it because it is so good. In continuity we are supposed to find safety, certainty and security.
I do not find any such things in the idea that our foreign policy cliques under a Clinton administration will simply keep doing what they have been doing for many decades. The thought frightens me, and I do not say this for mere effect. In my estimation, and it is no more than that, the world is approaching maximum tolerance of Americas postCold War insistence on hegemony. As regular readers will know, this is why I stand among those who consider Clintons foreign policy thinking, borne out by the record, the most dangerous thing about her. And there are many of us, by the evidence.
Nominally, as advertised in the advancers published before Clinton spoke, Clintons speech was a rolling barrage against Donald Trumps various assertions on foreign policy questions. It was that. She hacked into Trumps America First stance and a few of his specific positions. But I question whether this was her true point. I find evidence in her remarks to suggest Clintons more fundamental intent was to counter all the talk of Hillary the hawk and Killary. It is catching up on her; the givenness to invasions, bombing campaigns, regime change and conjured-from-nothing hostility may well prove a serious burden as she tries to line up the Sanders peoplethat vast segment of the Democratic Party she has so thoroughly alienatedbehind her.
Clintons tactic was to go long on her claim to gravitas. She is for a smart and principled foreign policy that preserves American primacy. She favors maintaining Washingtons network of global allianceswith friends, clients and those in betweenand avoiding any temptation to lapse into isolation. She spoke in such terms as the stakes in global statecraft to evoke complexities that only a closed coterie of mandarins could possibly understand. Interestingly, she promised to reduce income inequality at home and rebuild domestic infrastructure, which is fine, but note why: We must do these things because America cannot lead the rest of world if its own people are falling down holes.
Im going to keep American security at the heart of my campaign, Clinton asserted. Just the thing in a military town, of course. And Clintons people are right to surmise that global disorder is starting to get on many American voters nerves.
On offer in San Diego, then, was a comfortingif this is your flavordefense of the bipartisan pillars of American diplomacy that every president has adhered to since World War II, as The New York Times put it in last Thursdays editions.
Wow. That is a rich phrase. It seems intended to confer some historical legitimacy on the Clinton record, some foreign policy lineage, and to arouse in us some confidence in the tried-and-true of our nearby ancestorsnostalgia, even, for the supposed wisdom of our supposedly greatest generation. People who listen to too much NPR will buy into this as sensible. But it requires exploration beyond this kind of dim silliness, surely.
More here: http://www.salon.com/2016/06/04/we_cant_have_more_of_the_same_the_very_real_dangers_of_hillary_clintons_foreign_policy/
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We can’t have more of the same: The very real dangers of Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy (Original Post)
Playinghardball
Jun 2016
OP
She armed Saudi Arabia to the teeth quid pro quo after $$$ donated to the Clinton Foundation.
AtomicKitten
Jun 2016
#3
How can an alleged progressive consider American Hegemony "prinicipled" or "smart"?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2016
#8
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)1. K&R.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)2. So true. K&R nt
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)3. She armed Saudi Arabia to the teeth quid pro quo after $$$ donated to the Clinton Foundation.
Hillary Clintons State Department Armed Saudi Arabia to the Teeth
While Saudi Arabia and Boeing poured cash into the Clinton Foundation, Hillary Clinton's State Department approved enormous sales of Boeing fighter jets to the kingdom.
While Saudi Arabia and Boeing poured cash into the Clinton Foundation, Hillary Clinton's State Department approved enormous sales of Boeing fighter jets to the kingdom.
As Hillary Clinton emerges as the front-runner for the Democratic Partys presidential candidate, shes receiving increased scrutiny for her years as secretary of state and in particular her hawkish foreign policy. Many critics are focusing especially on her long relationship with Saudi Arabia.
During her tenure as secretary of state, Clinton made weapons transfers to the Saudi government a top priority.
On Christmas Eve in 2011, Hillary Clinton and her closest aides celebrated a $29.4 billion sale of over 80 F-15 fighter jets, manufactured by U.S.-based Boeing Corporation, to Saudi Arabia. In a chain of enthusiastic emails, an aide exclaimed that it was not a bad Christmas present.
These are the very fighter jets the Saudis have been using to bomb Yemen since March 2015. A year later, at least 2,800 Yemeni civilians have been killed, mostly by airstrikes and theres no end in sight. The indiscriminate Saudi strikes have killed journalists and ambulance drivers. Theyve hit the Chamber of Commerce, facilities supported by Médecins Sans Frontières (also known as Doctors Without Borders), a wedding hall, and a center for the blind. The attacks have also targeted ancient heritage sites in Yemen. International human rights organizations are saying that the Saudi-led strikes on Yemen may amount to war crimes.
During her tenure as secretary of state, Clinton made weapons transfers to the Saudi government a top priority, according to a new report published in The Intercept. And even while Clintons State Department was deeply invested in getting weapons to Saudi Arabia, the Clinton Foundation accepted millions of dollars in donations from both the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the weapons manufacturer Boeing. Christmas presents were being gifted all around.
more at link: http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/03/08/hillary-clintons-state-department-armed-saudi-arabia-teeth
During her tenure as secretary of state, Clinton made weapons transfers to the Saudi government a top priority.
On Christmas Eve in 2011, Hillary Clinton and her closest aides celebrated a $29.4 billion sale of over 80 F-15 fighter jets, manufactured by U.S.-based Boeing Corporation, to Saudi Arabia. In a chain of enthusiastic emails, an aide exclaimed that it was not a bad Christmas present.
These are the very fighter jets the Saudis have been using to bomb Yemen since March 2015. A year later, at least 2,800 Yemeni civilians have been killed, mostly by airstrikes and theres no end in sight. The indiscriminate Saudi strikes have killed journalists and ambulance drivers. Theyve hit the Chamber of Commerce, facilities supported by Médecins Sans Frontières (also known as Doctors Without Borders), a wedding hall, and a center for the blind. The attacks have also targeted ancient heritage sites in Yemen. International human rights organizations are saying that the Saudi-led strikes on Yemen may amount to war crimes.
During her tenure as secretary of state, Clinton made weapons transfers to the Saudi government a top priority, according to a new report published in The Intercept. And even while Clintons State Department was deeply invested in getting weapons to Saudi Arabia, the Clinton Foundation accepted millions of dollars in donations from both the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the weapons manufacturer Boeing. Christmas presents were being gifted all around.
more at link: http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/03/08/hillary-clintons-state-department-armed-saudi-arabia-teeth
Tarc
(10,476 posts)4. And this is bad....why?
Saudi Arabia is an ally, and has been for many years.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)7. It's corruption, influence peddling.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)5. “I’m going to keep American security at the heart of my campaign”
"And by campaign, I mean basement."
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)6. Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
Excerpts:
As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium Ones chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.
And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.
<snip>
American political campaigns are barred from accepting foreign donations. But foreigners may give to foundations in the United States. In the days since Mrs. Clinton announced her candidacy for president, the Clinton Foundation has announced changes meant to quell longstanding concerns about potential conflicts of interest in such donations; it has limited donations from foreign governments, with many, like Russias, barred from giving to all but its health care initiatives. That policy stops short of a more stringent agreement between Mrs. Clinton and the Obama administration that was in effect while she was secretary of state.
<snip>
more at link: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium Ones chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.
And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.
<snip>
American political campaigns are barred from accepting foreign donations. But foreigners may give to foundations in the United States. In the days since Mrs. Clinton announced her candidacy for president, the Clinton Foundation has announced changes meant to quell longstanding concerns about potential conflicts of interest in such donations; it has limited donations from foreign governments, with many, like Russias, barred from giving to all but its health care initiatives. That policy stops short of a more stringent agreement between Mrs. Clinton and the Obama administration that was in effect while she was secretary of state.
* my note: She violated that agreement almost immediately.
http://www.businessinsider.com/report-clinton-foundation-broke-foreign-donation-deal-with-white-house-2015-2
http://www.businessinsider.com/report-clinton-foundation-broke-foreign-donation-deal-with-white-house-2015-2
<snip>
more at link: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)8. How can an alleged progressive consider American Hegemony "prinicipled" or "smart"?