Kochy Roberts called it "basically tied" this morning; a slight change from "virtually tied" she's been using the past few weeks.

"the race as tightened the last few weeks" - perhaps it did, but the trend reversed after the second debate. no mention of that.


A whole segment of wishful thinking if you are a republicon.

in my car several times a day with NPRR's coverage. jeezus it's terrible.

national public republican radio

I have been listening to NPR news since the early 80s and it has been in the last 5 or so that it went into the shitter. I haven't been able to let go yet.

I wish I could find a morning alternative that wasn't 40% bullshit and another 40% commercials.

and NPRR still has a lot of shows i really like a lot. it's their political coverage that drives me apeshit.

and saw that they kept showing the Susquehanna poll in Pennsylvania that has the race at a tie. Nevermind all of the other polls that show a solid Obama lead, let's just cherry pick one outlier poll and act like it's a proper reflection of the race. I had to turn it over before I smashed my tv.

even when a significant portions of polls for the same state would show a bigger margin of victory.

I don't recall them being this bad in 2008 but perhaps that's because the race was becoming one sided by a certain time.

when they lose. In 2008 I think they kinda expected it, but if they feel they are going to win they can feel the pain I had in 2004. The only thing is that we will win legally but I'm in Ohio where it was stolen in 2004 . I hope I never feel that political pain again.

Obama has to win!! I am so worried. I am in NC and I have seen too much shit here! I was told to come here, to soothe my mind.. I have read a few threads and feel a little better! Thanks to all you great people.

Thanks for joining us

The race was going to tighten, it did tighten, now it's untightening. But get another word PLEASE!

If anything it has expanded. The race hasn't broken open. (Although in a sense I could argue that point.) But to call it tightening is just not accurate.

POLLS! POLLS! POLLS! Some links yall or something, since what they are showing is biased. I have to admit, that PA poll showing Romney and Obama tied had me going

If that is really applicable, then they all know Obama has this won. At this stage of the game watch for Republican Dirty Tricks (a/k/a their normal waking behavior), spinning a false narrative completely out of this world, and distractions.

Case in point, Morning Joe the day before the election. All he wanted to talk about at the outset this morning was the Alabama/LSU game. Then, the loaded Mellon Scaife poll in PA, and on he goes with all that superior Romney enthusiasm. Oh yes, Romney has more enthusiasm, just ask Mark Halperin!

OH, PA, NV and IA!!



I kid you not!



Apparently Ari Flescher tweeted this out last night! They are really getting desperate.


Direct quite from Mark Helpern. "That's not a crazy thing!"

...this kind of thing happens every election, no matter who's ahead. If you're upset that the media covers the horserace and not policy issues, you probably stopped watching TV news 40 years ago...

He's talking about how "weary" voters are of Obama. He already ruined MTP...what more does he have to do to be sent out to pasture?

....the vote by discouraging the President's supporters from going to vote.

I stopped relying on TV for unbiased news several years ago....not worth getting pissed off.

repugligans...I ENJOY msnbc from about 2:00 on...at lease these are people that will tell some of the truth. Today I'm going to watch good morning america or a rerun of Revenge from last night. Cannot take morning JOE.....what a fucking MORON. I loved it when he was gone 2 days last week.

who is that show aiming for?

I've seen Krystal Ball on Lawrence several times and she's no brain trust either. I've never heard her say anything particularly insightful or which hadn't been already stated ad nausem between 5 p.m. and 10 p.m. on the other MSNBC shows.

msnbc's worst BY FAR show.

...though I was surprised that Halperin pushed back a little on that. He even said (paraphrasing) "on Wednesday morning, it won't be so funny." Surprised me. Of course, Joe Scabrous laughed again like the dumb hyena he is.

Their job has (unfortunately) gone from reporting the facts to selling a narrative. With the narrative perspective, there it is much more exciting to sell a tie, rather than the truth.

Either way, I'm kind of happy that they are claiming it is tied- that way it can keep Obama supporters from being complacent on Tuesday

...It's all venting (by someone who, again, is actually watching a show they hate). No quotes, no examples.

How about THIS example: "You head tells you Obama's going to win"

Or THESE polls: Iowa +5, Ohio +2, VA +1.

That's the funniest thing I've read in weeks.

OF COURSE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS NOT JOURNALISM!!!

Thanks for the laugh. I needed that this morning!

"Bizarro World" where they were all alternate personalities.. They are still trying to exist in this alternate "bubble like" world where voter suppression doesn't exist, certain polls don't exist, enthusiasm for Obama doesn't exist.. I really can't believe Joe's arrogant attitude towards what happened in Florida yesterday.. He just kept yapping about Benghazi.. He makes himself sound like a raging Teabagger..

to see Mark Halperin's creepy mug just crest fallen on Wednesday. Please make it happen!!! He has become, for me, the absolute worst, because they keep talking about him as if he is NOT totally biased. They keep presenting him as a mainstream serious journalist who still believes that Romney might win. Whatever Dude.

I found the mock up of Joe with a his ready for straight to video porn 'stache quite heartwarming, though.

Quote: to see Mark Halperin's creepy mug just crest fallen on Wednesday

You and I both! He gets on my last nerve. I still would like to see some up to date polls, yall (?).

he has turned out to be flake and newsboy want-a-be, which like Mitt, a phony like him! He, Mark Halperin and others, just hate Obama and what he stands for!!!!

But I can't stand him now. I don't know why he has such a problem with our President.

The 2012 spin on Morning Joe has been perpetually Romney even as he has failed to stand up to anything said by the radical factions of his party and even as it became obvious that Romney's "out of touch" comments were an accurate reflection of his mind-set.

and still having a path to victory.

If that doesn't spell out desperation I don't know what does.

just to save what little sanity I have left. Here is what I think they do...honestly. I think they flip a coin each day to decide whether they will be FOR Obama of AGAINST Obama. Or they alternate days for that. Whatever. You can never know with certainty how they will play it out. I remember a day not too many weeks ago when Joe literally had his head in his hands moaning, "Sweet Jesus!" complaining about something Romney had done. But just as quickly, he can get back on the bandwagon and rag all over Obama. And his mocking of Nate Silver is well known.

I do NOT think Joe is that dumb, although he does utter some really bone headed things. I believe it's all part of his act to make this election a horse race and keep viewers tuned in. However, on days like today, he managed to get a panel guaranteed to piss off most Democrats. When Mort Zuckerman was on, I was ready to scream. When John McCain was on, I was literally screaming at my TV. Shortly after that I folded my cards and left that game.

So why do some of us here continue to watch MJ? The answer is like the answer to the question why keep hitting yourself in the head with a hammer???? Because it feels so GOOD when you stop. LOL

Hope everyone here has a good day, better tomorrow and remember to take Joe and his minions with a large grain of salt!!!

Though at one point today Joe admitted it looked bad for Romney.

I repeatedly called out loud for him to shut the hell up...especially when he kept repeating
Benghazi!, Benghazi!, Benghazi! He made an absolute fool of himself. Then he got McCain on to push a Benghazi Special inquisition like they did for Clinton. Someone on FOX News told them to push interest on Benghazi. Bet that's the first thing the ReThug congress pushes on day 1.
They make me sick!

You should be in prison, you asshole.