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Alekei_Firebird

(320 posts)
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 09:49 PM Nov 2012

538's model shows Obama recovering after Oct 12. Did Joe Biden save the campaign?

If you look at the graph in the "Chance of Winning" section of FiveThirtyEight.com, you may notice that Obama's freefall after the first debate abruptly stopped and changed course on Oct 12th.

Is it any coincidence that the VP debate was on Oct 11th?

Was Joe Biden responsible for that?

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538's model shows Obama recovering after Oct 12. Did Joe Biden save the campaign? (Original Post) Alekei_Firebird Nov 2012 OP
You betcha awake Nov 2012 #1
Yup Cali_Democrat Nov 2012 #2
It all boils down to Biden looking Ryan square in the EYE and saying sally5050 Nov 2012 #3
Damn right Doctor_J Nov 2012 #4
I really think he did. Walked into that debate with confidence and just took it right to Ryan. Jennicut Nov 2012 #5
Yes: GMTA cojoel Nov 2012 #6
Obama did it himself with Horses and Bayonets corkhead Nov 2012 #7
Yes, I think he was treestar Nov 2012 #8
Oh yeah, baby! FleetwoodMac Nov 2012 #9
YEP! I knew the day after the VP debate would be when the numbers changed bushisanidiot Nov 2012 #10
As much as I like Biden IrishSean723 Nov 2012 #11
I'm sure he helped BigDemVoter Nov 2012 #12
 

sally5050

(151 posts)
3. It all boils down to Biden looking Ryan square in the EYE and saying
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 09:52 PM
Nov 2012

it's all a bunch of stuff

then the moderator asking for clarification

Biden replies "Bunch of Stuff, Malarkey"

Wow.. i love how direct that line was.. it was the irish catholic way of backhand slapping Ryan with a velvet glove.

I loved it! that was the turning point.

BIDEN YOU SAVED US ALL. for the record, Biden was my FIRST choice for president before OBama won the primary.. so I get huge 'early credit' for seeing his saving graces so early..

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. Damn right
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 09:53 PM
Nov 2012

Bitch-slapped that little freeloading hypocrite. Gave Obama an example of how to talk to lying bullies.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
5. I really think he did. Walked into that debate with confidence and just took it right to Ryan.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:21 PM
Nov 2012

Both he and Bill Clinton have been amazing for Obama. And then Obama himself has a great second debate. After that, Mittens lost his momentum.

Plus Joe coined my most favorite phrase of the moment "a bunch of stuff".

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. Yes, I think he was
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:33 PM
Nov 2012

At least it gave his supporters a boost, and then Obama closed it with two good debates.

IrishSean723

(26 posts)
11. As much as I like Biden
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:44 PM
Nov 2012

and was proud of the ass kicking he doled out, I think people overestimate the impact of the VP debate. I don't see too many undecideds being swayed by that debate. I think what turned things around was a combination of Obama's return to form in the next two debates and Romney's likeability dropping as he got more exposure. Basically, Romney had the greatest night of his political career during the first debate, but the success was short lived because it also put his personality and ever changing positions under the microscope.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
12. I'm sure he helped
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:49 PM
Nov 2012

But in the end, the POTUS, Barrack Obama, brought home the bacon. As long as the GOTV efforts go as expected, Robme is toast! One final p-u-s-h, and he can take his loser-ass back to his mcmansion with its car elevator, and he can shove it all where the sun doesn't shine!

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