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Hillary calls out the Saudis, Qataris and the Kuwaitis and their citizens funding of terror. Go (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2016 OP
Except when she was SoS she ignored the ties and increased military sales while letting them donate think Jun 2016 #1
you imply she ranrogue? or did she carry out the Presidents foreign policies,as was her sworn duty? Sunlei Jun 2016 #18
Sidney Blumenthal was feeding her classified intel on Libya. Was he part of the State Dept? think Jun 2016 #19
what classified information? relationship?-a close personal friend and business contact Sunlei Jun 2016 #20
Obama didn't want Sid hired at State Dept. Hillary tried. After that she went behind Obama's back think Jun 2016 #22
The President is in charge of his Admin. The Clinton family are in charge of their charity. Sunlei Jun 2016 #24
Was Hillary just a figure head or did she actually perform her functions as SoS? think Jun 2016 #27
Our Department of State records show exactly the job she did & Kerry now carries on the same duties Sunlei Jun 2016 #32
Hillary would do well to take some notes from Kerry. /nt think Jun 2016 #33
yes he has decades of contacts in those areas of the world mentioned. kerry would also make excellen Sunlei Jun 2016 #36
Ya know he tried that. peace13 Jun 2016 #40
Aaaaaa...except Hill ignored the President in her dealings as SOS. peace13 Jun 2016 #29
Did OUR President say that?, (he appointed and directed Mrs. Clinton) or just you? Sunlei Jun 2016 #34
Her job as SoS was to advise the president which course of Exilednight Jun 2016 #43
And yet her foundation takes money from them. Go figure. name not needed Jun 2016 #2
And any transportation you use might use oil or gas from there. And you breathe the same air! stevenleser Jun 2016 #48
Loved it! nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #3
About friggin time!!!!!! Wellstone ruled Jun 2016 #4
Madam President will not put up with any nonsense. They'll learn oasis Jun 2016 #5
She'll force them to double their donations to her foundation before increasing the weapons sales? think Jun 2016 #6
Iran? 6chars Jun 2016 #7
Since it's looking more and more like a lone gunman, hedgehog Jun 2016 #8
The terrorism funding from the Gulf States goes to propaganda and youtube videos that affected this applegrove Jun 2016 #9
posting a youtube video is free, so is having a facebook and twitter account. Sunlei Jun 2016 #21
except you have to pay for the computers, phones, internet access and billing cycles Exilednight Jun 2016 #44
Don't you think those ISIS tech people are getting paid? Same as the soldiers who make the video? applegrove Jun 2016 #45
Kettle vs Pot Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #10
I'd rather that she call out homophobic terrorism in response to the massacre. JudyM Jun 2016 #11
I agree, The mass murder was a Hate crime against LGBT and POC. Domestic home grown coward, Sunlei Jun 2016 #37
here's a link Bill USA Jun 2016 #12
Thanks. applegrove Jun 2016 #14
Why did she leave Afganistan out? peace13 Jun 2016 #31
Our Department of State has clear policy re Afganistan, here's a direct link for you Sunlei Jun 2016 #35
No TV here. peace13 Jun 2016 #39
Our Department of State is an online website, it's not 'TV' you have to read. Sunlei Jun 2016 #41
Thanks. peace13 Jun 2016 #46
Its encouraging to see we still have so many anti-Hillarians. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #13
It's discouraging that Hill supporters never question her. peace13 Jun 2016 #28
I'm not buying what she's saying, she's benefited from the Saudi's money. JRLeft Jun 2016 #15
CNN was very surprised she said it. I think it was gutsy and needed applegrove Jun 2016 #16
Something smells fishy. peace13 Jun 2016 #26
...This is awful hypocritical. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #17
Maybe the Saudis should stop funding Clinton coyote Jun 2016 #23
Just like she told Wall Street to cut it out. So effective Arazi Jun 2016 #25
Can you say loose cannon. peace13 Jun 2016 #30
This more a shift to the right angrychair Jun 2016 #38
Posturing. She'll gladly take their money, so the words are hollow n/t arcane1 Jun 2016 #42
well good for her azurnoir Jun 2016 #47
Probably just like the banks. . . .calls them out in public to create an "image" pdsimdars Jun 2016 #49
 

think

(11,641 posts)
1. Except when she was SoS she ignored the ties and increased military sales while letting them donate
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:46 PM
Jun 2016

to her foundation.

It's not like this wasn't well known when she was SoS.

Take Qatar for instance:

Hillary Clinton's State Department, decided that the Qatar govt would be allowed to purchase 14 times more military hardware and services than before she took office. This was done despite the the fact that the Qatar govt. was associating with a known financier of terrorism.

Since 2008 a businessman from Qatar who has known ties to the ruling elite of Qatar has been on a world wide black list for funding terrorism. This person provided vast amounts of weapons and cash for terrorists in Syria & Iraq.

How is it possible for then Secretary of State Clinton to not know about the world wide blacklisted terrorist financier and his ties to members of the Qatar government? How much of those arms sold to Qatar ended up supplying terrorists?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/12/01/qatars-arms-aid-found-in-terrorists-positions-in-syrias-lattakia/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/qatar/11110931/How-Qatar-is-funding-the-rise-of-Islamist-extremists.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/08/world/middleeast/qatars-support-of-extremists-alienates-allies-near-and-far.html

The Clinton foundation also received between $1 million and $5 million from the country of Qatar. Hillary Clinton sometime after that increased military sales by 14 fold over what they received previously under the Bush administration.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
18. you imply she ranrogue? or did she carry out the Presidents foreign policies,as was her sworn duty?
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:42 AM
Jun 2016
The Secretary of State, appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate, is the President's chief foreign affairs adviser. The Secretary carries out the President's foreign policies through the State Department and the Foreign Service of the United States
 

think

(11,641 posts)
19. Sidney Blumenthal was feeding her classified intel on Libya. Was he part of the State Dept?
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:02 AM
Jun 2016

Did she attempt to hire him at the State Depth before hiring him through her charity?

What kind of relationship would you call that?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. what classified information? relationship?-a close personal friend and business contact
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:39 AM
Jun 2016

Most of our worlds 'movers and shakers' have a LOT of them.

I'd hire trusted friends and family first if possible, wouldn't you?

 

think

(11,641 posts)
22. Obama didn't want Sid hired at State Dept. Hillary tried. After that she went behind Obama's back
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:00 AM
Jun 2016

and hired him privately through her charity. It's all legal but it's obvious smoke and mirrors unless you're a die hard Hillary fan who won't admit the truth.



He worked on Hillary Clinton's 2008 campaign: And when she got the secretary of state job, the ever-loyal Clinton tried to bring him on as her adviser. But she ran into trouble with the Obama administration, which was upset with Blumenthal's attacks on Obama during the primary and nixed the idea.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/23/so-who-is-sidney-blumenthal/


Some of the information sent by Blumenthal has been now labeled classified. Of course Blumenthal didn't label it as such when he sent even though ti came from a former CIA person still in the loop at the time.



As I explained in this column in January, one of the most controversial of Ms. Clinton’s emails released by the State Department under judicial order was one sent on June 8, 2011, to the Secretary of State by Sidney Blumenthal, Ms. Clinton’s unsavory friend and confidant who was running a private intelligence service for Ms. Clinton. This email contains an amazingly detailed assessment of events in Sudan, specifically a coup being plotted by top generals in that war-torn country. Mr. Blumenthal’s information came from a top-ranking source with direct access to Sudan’s top military and intelligence officials, and recounted a high-level meeting that had taken place only 24 hours before.

To anybody familiar with intelligence reporting, this unmistakably signals intelligence, termed SIGINT in the trade. In other words, Mr. Blumenthal, a private citizen who had enjoyed no access to U.S. intelligence for over a decade when he sent that email, somehow got hold of SIGINT about the Sudanese leadership and managed to send it, via open, unclassified email, to his friend Ms. Clinton only one day later.

http://observer.com/2016/03/hillary-has-an-nsa-problem/


And you can thank the hacking of Blumenthal's email account for all of this mess being brought to the light to begin with.






Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
32. Our Department of State records show exactly the job she did & Kerry now carries on the same duties
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:29 AM
Jun 2016

I think they were/are both excellent SOS.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
36. yes he has decades of contacts in those areas of the world mentioned. kerry would also make excellen
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jun 2016

excellent President/ VP.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
40. Ya know he tried that.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jun 2016

I guess his VP took him down. He took money in Ohio to recount and stand tall but after that he threw the hat in. Mr. Edwards came out a few days later with his sad story. What a nightmare.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
34. Did OUR President say that?, (he appointed and directed Mrs. Clinton) or just you?
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:32 AM
Jun 2016
The Secretary of State, appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate, is the President's chief foreign affairs adviser. The Secretary carries out the President's foreign policies through the State Department and the Foreign Service of the United States

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
43. Her job as SoS was to advise the president which course of
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jun 2016

Action yields the best results.

I find it ironic that since Hillary left State that our foreign policy has been more doveish than when she was SoS and Hillary is given a pass on the hawkish nature from her time in the position.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
48. And any transportation you use might use oil or gas from there. And you breathe the same air!
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:40 PM
Jun 2016

Better stop both of those, otherwise you will be seen as in the tank for them.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
8. Since it's looking more and more like a lone gunman,
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jun 2016

isn't this a case of acting before all the facts are in?

applegrove

(118,712 posts)
9. The terrorism funding from the Gulf States goes to propaganda and youtube videos that affected this
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jun 2016

particular religious pervert, among many other religous perverts.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
44. except you have to pay for the computers, phones, internet access and billing cycles
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:49 PM
Jun 2016

That are much more expensive, relatively speaking, than what we pay.

I had a prepaid phone I'm Egypt and my monthly bill was $500 US a month, I paid nearly double that in Qatar.

applegrove

(118,712 posts)
45. Don't you think those ISIS tech people are getting paid? Same as the soldiers who make the video?
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jun 2016

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
11. I'd rather that she call out homophobic terrorism in response to the massacre.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jun 2016

This is like Matt Sheperd, much larger scale and with an automatic weapon.

Pinning it on radical Islam isn't addressing the heart of this, it is an LGBT hate crime. Start a good quality domestic education and policy program in response to this, don't rev up the Muslim hate.

See what this feels like to many in the LGBT community: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1487297

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
37. I agree, The mass murder was a Hate crime against LGBT and POC. Domestic home grown coward,
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jun 2016

looking to 'end' his miserable/angry/hateful life and take a very, very soft target of innocent people with him.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
31. Why did she leave Afganistan out?
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:27 AM
Jun 2016

That makes as much sense as attacking Iraq when it was Saudi Arabians who did 911. Oops..and now she is funded by the same people that did 911 and is yelling at them for something they didn't do? The wheels are not on the road here. Hill supporters should be wondering about all of this.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
35. Our Department of State has clear policy re Afganistan, here's a direct link for you
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jun 2016
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/5380.htm


Here's the main website, you can use the dropdown menus to answer all your questions instead of perching over random TV interviews.

http://www.state.gov/
 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
46. Thanks.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jun 2016

In regard to Hill and her falure to follow President Obama's direction. I am referring to Sydney Blumenthol. The fact that the Clinton Foundation hired him to work with Hill when The President refused to let her work directly with Him. This all rolled into the server scandal. This is old news and I an sure you have seen it!

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
28. It's discouraging that Hill supporters never question her.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:17 AM
Jun 2016

Can you imagine if it came out that Bernie was financed by a foreign country. Especially one with ties to 911. There would be some serious questions!

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
26. Something smells fishy.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:14 AM
Jun 2016

Huge donations from Saudi and then she turns around with this. How do you explain it?

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
17. ...This is awful hypocritical.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:03 AM
Jun 2016

The progenitors of Wahhabi Islam have been donating to her foundation for HOW LONG? Smoke and mirrors, I don't buy it for a second.

 

coyote

(1,561 posts)
23. Maybe the Saudis should stop funding Clinton
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jun 2016

Saudi Arabia Has Funded 20% Of Hillary's Presidential Campaign, Saudi Crown Prince Claims


The third area that demands attention is preventing radicalization and countering efforts by ISIS and other international terrorist networks to recruit in the United States and Europe. For starters, it is long past time for the Saudis, the Qataris and the Kuwaitis and others to stop their citizens from funding extremist organizations. And they should stop supporting radical schools and mosques around the world that have set too many young people on a path towards extremism. We also have to use all our capabilities to counter jihadist propaganda online. This is something that I spend a lot of time on at the State Department.

There is nothing wrong with that statement, as it is the whole truth - Saudi Arabia's involvement in supporting terrorism stretches from Sept 11 all the way through to ISIS - however, where there is a big, and potentially law-breaking, problem is what Jordan's official news agency, Petra News Agency, reported on Sunday citing the Saudi crown price, namely that Saudi Arabia is a major funder of Hillary Clinton’s campaign to become the next president of the United States.

As MEE notes, the Petra News Agency published on Sunday what it described as exclusive comments from Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman which included a claim that Riyadh has provided 20 percent of the total funding to the prospective Democratic candidate's campaign.

The report was later deleted and the news agency has not responded to requests for comment from Middle East Eye. However, the deletion took place too late, as the Washington-based Institute for Gulf Affairs managed to capture the report and has re-published the original Arabic Petra report, which quoted Prince Mohammed as having said Saudi Arabia had provided with “full enthusiasm” an undisclosed amount of money to Clinton.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/saudi-arabia-has-funded-20-hillarys-presidential-campaign-saudi-crown-prince-claims

angrychair

(8,713 posts)
38. This more a shift to the right
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:52 AM
Jun 2016

Showing middle-right Independents that she can be "tough" on terrorism.
Her senior spokesman advocating for greater surveillance of "Islamic element" and now this aggressive lashing out at governments we give millions of dollars of weapons, much of it under the premise to fight terrorism.

Leveraging this attack to make political points seems tactless.
Our nation exports more weapons than all the top ten 1st world nation exports combined. comcombined.

It is very hard to take these comments as self-serving and opportunistic.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
49. Probably just like the banks. . . .calls them out in public to create an "image"
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jun 2016

but has already told them behind closed doors that they shouldn't worry, it's just part of campaigning and it'll be business as usual once she's in.

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