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helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 07:34 AM Nov 2012

Dan Rather said something in his gut

Tells him that it will be a good day for Romney. He said Romney will get his vote out. He said he does not think Obama will be able to get his vote out. Add him to my shit list. Let's prove him WRONG!

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Dan Rather said something in his gut (Original Post) helpisontheway Nov 2012 OP
Ya - I Love The "Gut" Analysis... SingleSeatBiggerMeat Nov 2012 #1
WHATAAAAAAAAAATTTT? Dan Rather????????????Damn changes my opinion onecent Nov 2012 #2
Yeah I was stunned! When they announced helpisontheway Nov 2012 #4
Welcome to DU helpisontheway...Love your name!! lol onecent Nov 2012 #24
I just drank a pot of coffee, so my gut is kind of rumbling kalli007 Nov 2012 #3
I think he's speaking in code.......... Buddaman Nov 2012 #5
It's true many Romney voters will crawl over broken glass to vote against our guy BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #6
No surprise he's been on Robme skeewee08 Nov 2012 #7
Is it a concerted effort to go against Nate? OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #8
That's just not accurate at all Onlooker Nov 2012 #9
I don't have time to read this now but helpisontheway Nov 2012 #17
he did say it on Morning Joe this AM, it was one thing he said, of many... CreekDog Nov 2012 #23
The guy who reported that JFK's head went "violently forward" deutsey Nov 2012 #10
He also claimed he actually witnessed the shooting even though he was blocks away. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #33
Ever since his participation in the Warren Commission coverup TroyD Nov 2012 #35
Where? When? Link? Thanks. :) Lucinda Nov 2012 #11
He was on Morning Joe this morning! Nt helpisontheway Nov 2012 #15
Uh...huh...that it why he is stationed at Tutonic Nov 2012 #12
I'll take Nate Silver's math over Dan Rather's "gut" any day... malexand Nov 2012 #13
He lost his career because he dared to criticize GWB. RichGirl Nov 2012 #14
And maintain some relevancy in the MSM. Kind of sad to watch. chimpymustgo Nov 2012 #19
All this gut stuff is "well he's a black guy" in disguise smorkingapple Nov 2012 #16
The John2 Nov 2012 #18
saw Rather on msnbc last night didnt hear anything like that Jersey Devil Nov 2012 #20
As I said in my earlier post he DID NOT helpisontheway Nov 2012 #22
He said it. I watched it RomneyLies Nov 2012 #27
He said it naviman Nov 2012 #29
Helpisontheway is right. He DID say that this morning. Empowerer Nov 2012 #40
Dan's a great man, but Adenoid_Hynkel Nov 2012 #21
He's a dinosaur like Brokaw. Obama is blowing up the paradigm they spent their entire careers in smorkingapple Nov 2012 #25
I'll take data driven analysis over anbody's "gut" any day of the week RomneyLies Nov 2012 #26
It's just indigestion, Dan. WI_DEM Nov 2012 #28
For 8 years, America relied on the "leadership" of a president who acted FROM HIS GUT! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2012 #30
Dan Rather is still hurt, and gun-shy after losing that battle with Bush. He has PTSD and JackN415 Nov 2012 #31
I just voted in MD and the line was longer than it was in 2008 justiceischeap Nov 2012 #32
No one should have to wait that long to vote TroyD Nov 2012 #37
He's doesn't see how much the right wing's policies scare the **** out of the rest of us splat Nov 2012 #34
Has everyone forgotten Dan Rather's comment, "...but he couldn't sell watermelons'...."?..... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #36
It's the Repub meme of the morning spinbaby Nov 2012 #38
How do they know who is voting for who? Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2012 #44
I try to cut Dan some slack but... PsychProfessor Nov 2012 #39
He can take his gut and shove it. Connie_Corleone Nov 2012 #41
What's the frequency? LiberalEsto Nov 2012 #42
Your/His Concern Is Duly Noted.I Thank You/Him For Your Input./nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #43
Too old, too white. Dan perceptions were made for another age. MjolnirTime Nov 2012 #45
Dan Rather is a racist, GallopingGhost Nov 2012 #46
Rather's pretty liberal BlueDemKev Nov 2012 #47
He should have reached for the Kaopectate n/t LiberalElite Nov 2012 #48
They finally broke him... budkin Nov 2012 #49
GOP has revved up their hate machine. Seemingly sane people are voting for R... kerouac2 Nov 2012 #50
I know the pollsters are not always completely accurate treestar Nov 2012 #51
How's that gut feeling today, Dan? SunSeeker Nov 2012 #52

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
4. Yeah I was stunned! When they announced
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 07:42 AM
Nov 2012

that he would be on I was thinking good at least it was not Brokaw. Plus Rather was fine on Rachel last night. SMH

Buddaman

(503 posts)
5. I think he's speaking in code..........
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 07:43 AM
Nov 2012

Dan's pretty sharp....HE KNOWS that BO DID get the vote out. Not nice to toy with people's mind Dan.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
6. It's true many Romney voters will crawl over broken glass to vote against our guy
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 07:43 AM
Nov 2012

The problem is, there aren't enough of them.

But, for the sake of winning, let's pretend Dan's not all wrong.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
8. Is it a concerted effort to go against Nate?
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 07:44 AM
Nov 2012

Seems that anyone who can be considered a pundit is irritated with Nate; maybe they're all saying the opposite of what his results show, just to try to be relevant. Weird.



 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
9. That's just not accurate at all
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 07:47 AM
Nov 2012

He's says it's going to be very close, but advantage Obama.

http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20121104/OPINION/311040038/Dan-Rather-s-election-prediction

There is a consensus that Romney will get his out. The question is can Obama get out his. Republicans got their voters to the polls in the 2010 off-year Congressional elections, fueled by detestation of Obama among the faithful, and they crushed. Obama got an unusually strong turnout in 2008, especially among the young and most especially among young women. Whether or not he can do that again, or come close, could be decisive. It’ll matter most in the swing states, Ohio and the others.

Money matters, as it always does, and Romney has more money than Obama to spend down the stretch for advertising to persuade late-deciders and to maximize turnout of his base.

So who’s going to win? I can be dumb as a fencepost about a lot of things, but I’m not so dumb as to make a prediction this near to the finish in a race as close as this one appears to be.

At this juncture, it looks dead even in the national popular vote, with a slight edge for President Obama in the Electoral College math. So, bottom line: as of this date, advantage Obama. But I wouldn’t bet the rent money either way.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
17. I don't have time to read this now but
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 08:01 AM
Nov 2012

I do know what he said this morning . He did not say that to Rachel last night. That is why I wondered if he said it because he was with Joe. It was right after Heileman gave a great report about the confidence of the Obama team.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
23. he did say it on Morning Joe this AM, it was one thing he said, of many...
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 08:21 AM
Nov 2012

i'm a big fan of Rather, but doesn't mean he is always right and doesn't mean i agree with all he says.

anyway, he also said something like, "yeah but you bet on facts not your gut and the facts suggest Obama is going to win" (from memory, bear with me).

so there's that.

malexand

(59 posts)
13. I'll take Nate Silver's math over Dan Rather's "gut" any day...
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 07:55 AM
Nov 2012

Thanks for this great news about this apparent late surge for POTUS in Florida. A win in Florida would be huge. And Virginia, NC, Nevada, Colorado, NH, Iowa, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. GObama.

RichGirl

(4,119 posts)
14. He lost his career because he dared to criticize GWB.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 07:57 AM
Nov 2012

Now he's just trying to do some serious GOP ass kissing.

smorkingapple

(827 posts)
16. All this gut stuff is "well he's a black guy" in disguise
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 08:00 AM
Nov 2012

Not racism. They really just can't comprehend how anyone names Obama could potentially have won two landslide elections and demolished a war hero and a successful businessman. Until it happens they still won't understand it

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
18. The
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 08:05 AM
Nov 2012

bottomline is Romney is depending on getting over 60 percent of the white vote. Most National Polls predict President Obama will get below 40 percent of white voters. I disagree with that. This is the Republican Party's last Hurrah with that strategy.Rather is depending on minority voters not to get out and vote. So far, that theory has been crushed in early voting. I think it will be crushed on election day too.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
20. saw Rather on msnbc last night didnt hear anything like that
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 08:14 AM
Nov 2012

Rather seemed upbeat about Obama being reelected. I call bullshit. Link please

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
22. As I said in my earlier post he DID NOT
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 08:19 AM
Nov 2012

Say that on Rachel's show last night! It was on Motning Joe. You can call bullshit all day but I have no reason to lie about what he said. Believe what you want. I'm done with it. Gonna finish getting dressed so I can prove him wrong.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
40. Helpisontheway is right. He DID say that this morning.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 09:26 AM
Nov 2012

I heard him myself and was shocked, too.

He said something like "You should never report on your gut, but my gut tells me that Romney's going to have a good day . . ."

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
30. For 8 years, America relied on the "leadership" of a president who acted FROM HIS GUT!
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 08:49 AM
Nov 2012

No thanks, Rather. I prefer the facts and good, thoughtful decision making.

 

JackN415

(924 posts)
31. Dan Rather is still hurt, and gun-shy after losing that battle with Bush. He has PTSD and
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 08:52 AM
Nov 2012

sees things, hear voices in any dealing with RWers.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
32. I just voted in MD and the line was longer than it was in 2008
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 08:56 AM
Nov 2012

Several people commented on that. Someone also said her neighbor early voted yesterday and the wait was about 2 hours.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
37. No one should have to wait that long to vote
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 09:07 AM
Nov 2012

But that's an issue we'll address in the months to come.

Nothing we can do about it now.

splat

(2,294 posts)
34. He's doesn't see how much the right wing's policies scare the **** out of the rest of us
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 08:59 AM
Nov 2012

He's the Romney demographic, most of the alpha journalists are.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
36. Has everyone forgotten Dan Rather's comment, "...but he couldn't sell watermelons'...."?.....
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 09:06 AM
Nov 2012


DAN RATHER: Part of the undertow in the coming election is going to be President Obama's leadership. And the Republicans will make a case and a lot of independents will buy this argument. "Listen he just hasn't been, look at the health care bill. It was his number one priority. It took him forever to get it through and he had to compromise it to death." And a version of, "Listen he's a nice person, he's very articulate" this is what's been used against him, "but he couldn't sell watermelons if it, you gave him the state troopers to flag down the traffic."

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
38. It's the Repub meme of the morning
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 09:13 AM
Nov 2012

Everywhere I look I see someone stating that Republicans are getting out the vote while the Democrats are apathetic. Yeah, that's why I stood in the cold before dawn to vote today.

PsychProfessor

(204 posts)
39. I try to cut Dan some slack but...
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 09:14 AM
Nov 2012

He was working my last nerve with Rachel last night and continued to do so this morning. I had to relieve the tension by voting this morning!

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
46. Dan Rather is a racist,
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 10:44 AM
Nov 2012

anti-Obama Republican. Remember the watermelon comment in 2010?

Electoral-vote has the President at 303 without Florida or NC, so I'm not worried about Rather's gut.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
47. Rather's pretty liberal
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 10:45 AM
Nov 2012

This may be an attempt on his part to motivate the Democratic base to get out and vote. So let's do it!

kerouac2

(449 posts)
50. GOP has revved up their hate machine. Seemingly sane people are voting for R...
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:02 AM
Nov 2012

as well as the nut cases. They have built a frenetic base of people that are highly motivated based on hate and fear. A 55 year old woman was caught in Oregon messing around with ballots. She probably seems normal to her friends and neighbors, but she has been brainwashed and committed a felony. Up to 5-yrs in jail, 125k fine. She probably baked cookies for the church bake sale, and here she is doing this.

We're up against fervent sheeple voting against the black, muslim, kenyan, communist who they think will doom them to hell if they support him. You actually have religious leaders threatening their followers souls if the support Obama.

Then there's the people who have had their jobs threatened by bosses...

treestar

(82,383 posts)
51. I know the pollsters are not always completely accurate
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:02 AM
Nov 2012

but they are better than anyone's "gut." What a stupid thing to say. He's a reporter? He should be fired.

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