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pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:50 AM Jun 2016

Racketeering Lawsuit Filed Over Election Fraud That Cost Bernie Sanders the Election

Published on Jun 17, 2016

We already knew that election fraud had been rampant this election season, but a new racketeering lawsuit that will be filed claims it was so widespread it cost Bernie Sanders the election. We review the details of the suit and discuss why the lawsuit is necessary. The problem, however, is that time is running out.





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Racketeering Lawsuit Filed Over Election Fraud That Cost Bernie Sanders the Election (Original Post) pdsimdars Jun 2016 OP
This was very informative and well documented. Thank you for posting. think Jun 2016 #1
There some surprisingly good things done by people. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #5
I must admit I was skeptical but glad I chose to watch. The information on think Jun 2016 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #64
Who is that guy vlogging MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #2
Like that's the important part. NWCorona Jun 2016 #14
There is no "important part" to this nonsense. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #26
Where is his bathrobe, and his mother? kstewart33 Jun 2016 #42
Except in places where paper ballots were used she trounced him. Maryland for example. nt glennward Jun 2016 #3
The vast majority of Black Americans have always had a good opinion of the Clintons, and Cal33 Jun 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #4
Yep. Scurrilous Jun 2016 #38
THERE IS NO SUCH THING as a "racketeering lawsuit." Hortensis Jun 2016 #6
I suggest that you review the RICO laws hootinholler Jun 2016 #12
You really should review them. These are cynical, Hortensis Jun 2016 #13
Orly Taitz comes to mind just now. MineralMan Jun 2016 #16
Ew. Like a reminder of aversion therapy. Hortensis Jun 2016 #18
There are civil remedies for the victims under the RICO Statute. Dustlawyer Jun 2016 #52
Yep shenmue Jun 2016 #63
The aura of illegitimacy will always surround her. Four years will be plenty..n/t monmouth4 Jun 2016 #7
Do you think she will last four years in office? Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #22
No. Republicans will begin impeachment the day she's sworn in. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #36
A'yup Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #37
Really? NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #41
They're Republicans. She is not (officially anyway). And her name is Clinton. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #45
So the Republicans ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #47
Yep. Don't say I didn't warn you. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #48
You still keep ducking the question. NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #49
English must be your second language. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #51
Since we are talking about language, it's "capisce" zappaman Jun 2016 #55
Good shot, zappaman SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #59
I am well-versed in the language, thank you. NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #60
No, they don't realize this. okasha Jun 2016 #57
This lawsuit is a joke Gothmog Jun 2016 #10
The points they make are good... scscholar Jun 2016 #29
This lawsuit has no merit Gothmog Jun 2016 #46
This lawsuit will be dismissed almost immediately. MineralMan Jun 2016 #11
YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!!!!11!!! N/T JTFrog Jun 2016 #15
Perfect response! JoePhilly Jun 2016 #19
This is American 'democracy". Of course there was fraud. The establishment NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #17
Wake me up when this lawsuit actually gets filed onenote Jun 2016 #20
More conspiracy theory foolishness. Yawn....ZZZZZZZZZZ...... RBInMaine Jun 2016 #21
lolz you guys! obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #23
There's no " timely" resolution to election fraud laserhaas Jun 2016 #24
... LexVegas Jun 2016 #25
It's on youtube it must be true MattP Jun 2016 #27
Insane conspiracy theory nonsense. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #28
What a load of crap. Adrahil Jun 2016 #30
"We already knew that election fraud had been rampant this election season..." Tarc Jun 2016 #31
I know they gave evidence of election fraud in Puerto Rico to the FBI, Blue Meany Jun 2016 #43
So, that'd be a...no. Tarc Jun 2016 #61
. RandySF Jun 2016 #32
Another fucking insane lawsuit by another sore loser Sheepshank Jun 2016 #33
She and her buddy GWB could be having a good laugh over this silly "lawsuit." senz Jun 2016 #34
It's who she learned it from. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #35
sigh MFM008 Jun 2016 #39
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #44
You must be proud at being so much smarter than Bernie... brooklynite Jun 2016 #50
Your OP says it is filed but the post says it is yet to be filed. Very deceptive!! riversedge Jun 2016 #53
where do these guys come from WhiteTara Jun 2016 #54
K & R to the moon! Duppers Jun 2016 #56
Hillary Clinton will act like it's nothing which is dishonest and why people don't trust her. ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #58
People don't trust Hillary? You mean, like this? pdsimdars Jun 2016 #62
 

think

(11,641 posts)
8. I must admit I was skeptical but glad I chose to watch. The information on
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:24 AM
Jun 2016

European countries banning electronic voting machines was news to me.

The background of the lawyers and their involvement in 2008 & 2012 investigations into this matter was also eye opening...

Response to think (Reply #1)

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
9. The vast majority of Black Americans have always had a good opinion of the Clintons, and
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:01 AM
Jun 2016

it hasn't changed over the years -- regardless of what had become known about them.

The population of Black Americans in Maryland is 30.3%,
and of DC is 49%

http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/24

http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/11

Response to pdsimdars (Original post)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. THERE IS NO SUCH THING as a "racketeering lawsuit."
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:21 AM
Jun 2016

RICO is a federal law, and civil suits can only be brought against defendants found guilty in federal court of racketeering. Usually organized crime.

The people you're pushing here, pdsimdars, are trying to make fools of the public. They know the word "racketeering" has negative connotations, mainly of "the mob," and so they tossed it in.

I'd bet my next paycheck this will prove to be yet another phony suit brought just to get publicity and deceive the public into believing lies. Like all the others so far, including all those brought or threatened so far by Bernie himself.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
12. I suggest that you review the RICO laws
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jun 2016

I'm certain that Mr Fritakis, Mr Arnebeck, and others have a pretty damned good handle on how and what to do and your understanding is imperfect.

I'm pretty sure, but not certain, that RICO prosecution can start via a lawsuit, which is part of the purpose of the law allowing citizens with standing to originate prosecution under the RICO law.

SO how much are prepared to wager?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. You really should review them. These are cynical,
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 11:20 AM
Jun 2016

dishonest political operators, and I know that by their silly use of the term. A civil lawsuit could NEVER be "racketeering." That's federal criminal law, and a really major one too. They are making fools of everyone who believes this obvious nonsense.

As for the very idea of a RICO prosecution of a political party or presidential candidate??!!! Come on. Shouldn't that least clue one in? Just the suspicion of such a thing would push everything else off cable and broadcast news 24/7. Even Trump promising to nuke the ayrabs in France would only get brief mention.

Got it?

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
52. There are civil remedies for the victims under the RICO Statute.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:28 PM
Jun 2016

The civil suits are completely independent of any prosecution.

Some Hillary supporters want her so bad they make stuff up. That is how an echo chamber starts, which I believe will happen once we are not participating, whether by choice or kicked out like they did with the Hillary Clinton group.

NanceGreggs

(27,819 posts)
41. Really?
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jun 2016

On what grounds, pray tell?

You realize that a POTUS can only be impeached based on crimes committed while in office. So please enlighten all of us as to what crime Hillary will be committing the day she is sworn-in that will lead to impeachment proceedings.



 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
45. They're Republicans. She is not (officially anyway). And her name is Clinton.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jun 2016

That's all the justification they think they need to begin. Hell, GOP was plotting obstruction of Obama even before he was sworn in.

NanceGreggs

(27,819 posts)
47. So the Republicans ...
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jun 2016

... are going to start impeachment proceedings on the day HRC is sworn-in - and they are going to do that based on no grounds whatsoever.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
48. Yep. Don't say I didn't warn you.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:05 PM
Jun 2016

If there's anyone Republicans hate more than Obama it's a Clinton. And they'll be eager to divert attention from their loss with Trump, and throwing some red meat to their base to get them fired up again.

NanceGreggs

(27,819 posts)
49. You still keep ducking the question.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:11 PM
Jun 2016

What criminal act will Hillary be accused of on her first day in office?

In case you don't know - and I have a feeling you don't - grounds for impeachment do not include "we hate her".



 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
51. English must be your second language.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jun 2016

I answered above. They don't need a legitimate reason, they're Republicans out for blood.. Capece?

NanceGreggs

(27,819 posts)
60. I am well-versed in the language, thank you.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jun 2016

And you're still dodging the question - so perhaps it's you who has a problem with comprehension.

Saying "they don't need a legitimate reason" is demonstrative of being either ridiculously stupid, or appallingly ignorant of how the procedure works.

The Republicans cannot launch impeachment proceedings on the basis of "we don't need a legitimate reason - we just want to do this."

Seriously, dude - are you THAT unaware of how things work?

okasha

(11,573 posts)
57. No, they don't realize this.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jun 2016

The "impeachment" fantasy comes straight out of the same CDS as the indictment fairy.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
29. The points they make are good...
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:18 PM
Jun 2016

but if they are successful, it will turn into a joke. We need to support the nominee, not tear her down with facts.

Gothmog

(145,628 posts)
46. This lawsuit has no merit
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:55 PM
Jun 2016

The earlier california case was in effect laughed out of court. The conspiracy theory based case will suffer a similar fate

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
11. This lawsuit will be dismissed almost immediately.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:47 AM
Jun 2016

No standing will be one reason. This organization was not harmed, so no standing.

Wrong jurisdiction will probably be another. I don't know where this has been filed, but I'm betting their complaints are out of that court's jurisdiction.

Exit polling is variable and prone to errors. The science is unclear, so such evidence wouldn't be valid. Dismissed for failure to demonstrate any likelihood of success in the suit.

We have a Federal agency, the FEC, which is responsible for compliance with election laws. They report to the Justice Department, which is the organization to file suits on this in federal court.

There will be no trial of this suit.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
17. This is American 'democracy". Of course there was fraud. The establishment
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 11:33 AM
Jun 2016

authority to select our candidates will not, and cannot, be challenged. It can be obvious as it certainly was during this primary, but it makes no difference because the forces perpetrating the fraud are the same forces that control the MSM messaging to the public.

onenote

(42,778 posts)
20. Wake me up when this lawsuit actually gets filed
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jun 2016

Trust Vote has been allying about filing this lawsuit for weeks and keep finding excuses not to file.

Prediction. If and when this suit is filed it will take a court less time to dismiss it than it took to prepare it.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
24. There's no " timely" resolution to election fraud
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:08 PM
Jun 2016

Unless a Smoking Gun whistleblower has recorded the elected...participating.

In this particular case, I agree with counsels.

Hillary is just a pawn, in the puppetmasters game

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
28. Insane conspiracy theory nonsense.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:16 PM
Jun 2016

And as already mentioned there's no such thing as a "racketeering lawsuit."



Also this exit poll bullshit has been comprehensively debunked.
http://www.thenation.com/article/reminder-exit-poll-conspiracy-theories-are-totally-baseless/

And no the US government does not use exit poll differences to determine the legitimacy of foreign elections. That's not remotely what exit polls are for. Exit polls are used to assess the demographic breakdown of the voting, not to verify the results of the actual vote counts.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
30. What a load of crap.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:21 PM
Jun 2016

This completely disrespects the millions that voted for Clinton. This is sore loserdom at its worst.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
31. "We already knew that election fraud had been rampant this election season..."
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jun 2016

Can you provide a link to a news article that discusses Sanders' legal team filing suit against any state's primary result?

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
43. I know they gave evidence of election fraud in Puerto Rico to the FBI,
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jun 2016

and to my knowledge, that was the only time Bernie Sanders actually used the term "fraud" to describe what happened. He didn't file a lawsuit, however, and I don't have a link handy for this, but I found articles with some of the details in the Spanish language press.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
33. Another fucking insane lawsuit by another sore loser
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jun 2016

And this type of idiocy keeps popping up as if they had any merit.

Fwiw, not shaking in my boots.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
34. She and her buddy GWB could be having a good laugh over this silly "lawsuit."
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jun 2016

He can tell us all about election theft. Ha ha ha.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
40. It's who she learned it from.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:45 PM
Jun 2016

Although I'm sure the GOP is learning things from the Clinton campaign. The Foundation is a pretty novel money laundering operation to avoid campaign finance laws.

Response to pdsimdars (Original post)

brooklynite

(94,752 posts)
50. You must be proud at being so much smarter than Bernie...
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jun 2016

...I mean, if HE doesn't think there was election fraud...

WhiteTara

(29,726 posts)
54. where do these guys come from
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:21 PM
Jun 2016

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