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Ninga

(8,275 posts)
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:52 PM Nov 2012

I am a Cuyahoga Cty poll observer at a poll in

Cleveland since 5:45 am.

High turn out. Many provisional ballots due to voters requesting and NOT getting absentee ballots OR received absentee ballots but changed their mind and thought the could vote in person-which they cannot.

Heard that 2 GOP poll works were EJECTED for using GOP apps on their phones to report to GOP about voter numbers.

Half of voting machine problems state wide are in Cuyahoaga County, causing long lines.

Please, please send all of your most positive thoughts and prayers to Ohio. Please beam us your love and positive energy....please.

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I am a Cuyahoga Cty poll observer at a poll in (Original Post) Ninga Nov 2012 OP
A voter called me, said scanner was not working in Cuyahoga county. LisaL Nov 2012 #1
Your in my thoughts and prayers Ninga woolldog Nov 2012 #2
GO OHIO. VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE gottavote Nov 2012 #41
The GOP has an illegal app for poll workers to use?!!? factsarenotfair Nov 2012 #3
I don't think the app is illegal MSMITH33156 Nov 2012 #7
I'm curious about that too LTR Nov 2012 #30
It's ORCA FBaggins Nov 2012 #44
Good luck! Stargazer09 Nov 2012 #4
thanks for your hard work! Sad about provisional ballots... progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #5
Don't think that will be true in this case MSMITH33156 Nov 2012 #8
Are they correctly filling out the form Husted wants them to fill out. LisaL Nov 2012 #11
I am white. I was a pollwatcher in Ohio in 2008. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #32
Why can't they fill out their absentee ballot at the polling station woolldog Nov 2012 #13
Because per OH rules they can only drop them off at the board of elections on election day. LisaL Nov 2012 #18
Absentee Ballots in Ohio No Vested Interest Nov 2012 #19
Sometimes, people show up at the wrong polling place and they get a provisional ballot. merrily Nov 2012 #40
Which will not count. SOS Husted won a court ruling on that. LisaL Nov 2012 #47
Thoughts & Prayers and positive energy! karmaqueen Nov 2012 #6
You're a lot braver than I am, Ninga! Suich Nov 2012 #9
Sending you good vibes! Thanks for all you are doing!!! Maven Nov 2012 #10
Positive thoughts and prayer headed ur way! LibGranny Nov 2012 #12
Sending you good vibes! and, thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! amborin Nov 2012 #14
Sending strength and calm yellerpup Nov 2012 #15
From what I read EC Nov 2012 #16
He send applications, not ballots themselves. LisaL Nov 2012 #17
Where did you hear this? Mz Pip Nov 2012 #29
I am in Euclid,Ohio observing also heavy! mailman82 Nov 2012 #20
what county? woolldog Nov 2012 #22
This from my friend in Cuyahoga Cty. Mz Pip Nov 2012 #21
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #23
Exactly Mz Pip Nov 2012 #24
Ohio had strong storms after the hurricane. So it was in a sense hit by the hurricane JDPriestly Nov 2012 #33
That's true Mz Pip Nov 2012 #42
So why is Ohio so disorganized unless it is on purpose is the inference. efhmc Nov 2012 #25
Who said Ohio got hit by a hurricane? hoboken123 Nov 2012 #26
Rude n/t Inuca Nov 2012 #28
WHO the fuck are you? hootinholler Nov 2012 #37
Ohio can't get it together because of their teapuke SOS! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #36
WTF can't Ohio? Gee, might have something to do with Repub scumbags running the polls. mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #38
just an observation frm CA xxqqqzme Nov 2012 #45
California's goal is to enable voting. Ohio's isn't. n/t gkhouston Nov 2012 #49
Provisional Ballot = "Placebo Ballot" triplepoint Nov 2012 #27
Peace and Light to the Beloved Community, USA! USA! USA! patrice Nov 2012 #31
Keep fighting! HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #34
So send faulty machines to gum up the works. RedCloud Nov 2012 #35
Sending you white bright energy and huge thanks Ninga. EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #39
Thanks for your good thoughts DU peeps! Ninga Nov 2012 #43
Thank you for your service to the U.S. Constitution and to the American people. yardwork Nov 2012 #46
Prayers heading your way from Oakland, CA wryter2000 Nov 2012 #48
It really irks me femrap Nov 2012 #50
As OUR President said last night....We gotta fix that! Scruffy Rumbler Nov 2012 #51
They should change that rule about absentee ballots. mlevans Nov 2012 #52

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
7. I don't think the app is illegal
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:56 PM
Nov 2012

in Virginia they had a big sign saying no electronic devices beyond this point. My guess is they got tossed for violating something similar.

LTR

(13,227 posts)
30. I'm curious about that too
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:28 PM
Nov 2012

I doubt the GOP created it, as I don't think they want something like that coming back to them. I tried to do a search on Google but no luck.

The only thing I found was the Republican Voter Suppression App, though that was made by the people at The Onion as a joke.

Still, would like to know more about this underground RW voter app that encourages illegal behavior.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
5. thanks for your hard work! Sad about provisional ballots...
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:55 PM
Nov 2012

in most States they won't really count. I told my girls months ago to check a Month in ADVANCE to be sure they are good to vote. We need to get that message out for the next election. Sending good thoughts to you!

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
8. Don't think that will be true in this case
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:58 PM
Nov 2012

most provisional ballots are tossed out because the reason for the use of the ballot was improper ID, not registered, etc., which, upon closer inspection, meant that the vote was not legal. If the reason for these provisional ballots (or most of them) are that absentee ballots were requested but not returned, these absolutely will be counted.

It's also important to note that prior to the introduction of provisional ballots, these same people were just turned away. So this is much better.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
11. Are they correctly filling out the form Husted wants them to fill out.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:02 PM
Nov 2012

Cuyahoga sounds like an absolute nightmare with all the voting machine issues.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
32. I am white. I was a pollwatcher in Ohio in 2008.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:31 PM
Nov 2012

I warned here this year based on my experience in 2008. A single polling place, two machines, two precincts, one primarily white, the other primarily black, and the machine in the black precinct broke down. The State of Ohio had established a pattern. Since 2004 if I remember correctly, Ohio African-Americans had a harder time exercising their right to vote than do Ohio white people.

There is a chance that this is just perception or merely coincidence. But I honestly think it is by design. Just my opinion, but I hope that the Obama Justice Dept. comes down hard on Ohio authorities of the voting does not proceed smoothly across the state. There is no excuse for this.

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
19. Absentee Ballots in Ohio
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:42 PM
Nov 2012

must be delivered to the county Board of Elections.
Voters can still do that today, if they have the ballot and are willing to go to the county BOE, usually in the county seat.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
15. Sending strength and calm
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:36 PM
Nov 2012

certainty that you are the perfect person to complete this mission with grace, fairness, and humor.

EC

(12,287 posts)
16. From what I read
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:36 PM
Nov 2012

Your SOS just sent out 5m absentee ballots to people who DID NOT REQUEST them - so now when they go to the polls they are listed as absentee ballot when they didn't request them at all but now will have to fill out provisional. That sucks. Your SOS is a piece of shit...I think he is even worse than Blackwell was.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
17. He send applications, not ballots themselves.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:38 PM
Nov 2012

So some people filled them out, but didn't realize they won't be able to vote in person if they got a ballot.

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
29. Where did you hear this?
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:16 PM
Nov 2012

It seems like a lot since Ohio only has about 12 million people. NYTime said 200,000 provisional ballots.

Thisis such a mess I don't know what to believe.

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
21. This from my friend in Cuyahoga Cty.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:47 PM
Nov 2012

3 fishy things happened. They never received a request for an absentee ballot which they always got when there was a Democratic Sec of State; they never received notice of where their polling place was; and (the most suspicious) they received a nice card addressed to them personally from the DCP(hah!) on where to go for early voting. It turned out to be in another county out in the middle of nowhere.

She said her husband got to the polls at 6:30 am. It was crowded but the polls were not set up; no pens, lots of confusion.

For all of our problems. CA seems to be able to handle voting. Half the state votes absentee and there always seem to be plenty of polling places.

My son voted in lower Manhattan today. No problems. If NYC can get it together after a hurricane, WTF can't Ohio when it didn't even have one?

Response to Mz Pip (Reply #21)

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
33. Ohio had strong storms after the hurricane. So it was in a sense hit by the hurricane
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:33 PM
Nov 2012

just not nearly as hard as NY.

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
42. That's true
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 04:18 PM
Nov 2012

but it seems like Ohio's problems are generated by incompetence or malfeasance rather than forces of nature.

It really shouldn't be so hard to get it right.

In the 40 years I've been voting in CA I've never had a problem. WHen I used to vote at the polls I never had to wait more than about 10 minutes. I would always get a notification as to where I was supposed to vote. Now that I vote absentee I always receive my voter info and absentee ballot in plenty of time.

efhmc

(14,726 posts)
25. So why is Ohio so disorganized unless it is on purpose is the inference.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:07 PM
Nov 2012

Please don't be rude to people.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
45. just an observation frm CA
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 04:48 PM
Nov 2012

We have very few problems because we have Democrats as SoS. Even when steroid boy was governor, we had a Dem SoS. There was a very brief period, during steroid boy's reign, when we had a rethug SoS. He approved crooked diebold machines. because we have odd year state office elections, he was gone and Democratic SoS Debra Bowen took office. De-certified diebold & streamlined voter registration. This year your could register online. By 2016 we will be a same day register/vote state.

 

triplepoint

(431 posts)
27. Provisional Ballot = "Placebo Ballot"
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:08 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:49 PM - Edit history (1)

They are literally thrown in the trash and not counted. Don't accept a Provisional Ballot...EVER!




RedCloud

(9,230 posts)
35. So send faulty machines to gum up the works.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:34 PM
Nov 2012

Truly some state officals need to serve hard time with Bubba.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
43. Thanks for your good thoughts DU peeps!
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 04:19 PM
Nov 2012

voting here has not slowed down, while provisional ballots have slowed to about 3 or 4 every hour.

I was verbally confronted 2 separate times, each by a large white, angry male 55-65 yrs shouting encroaching on my personal space telling me how awful horrible and threating I was (68 yrs, 4'11&quot as a poll observer. I did not blink, nor respond, I just stood and took it.

The GOP never fails to disappoint me, no matter how long I wait.

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
50. It really irks me
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 06:32 PM
Nov 2012

if a Dem requests an absentee ballot and then decides to show up on Election Day to vote. If it is a repugnant, I'm happy.

mlevans

(843 posts)
52. They should change that rule about absentee ballots.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:22 PM
Nov 2012

In PA, even if somebody has already sent in an absentee ballot they can vote in person and are encouraged to do so. When they arrive at their polling place they just need to talk to the judge of elections and he/she will void their absentee ballot so that there's no question of anybody voting twice. I observed a couple cases like this when I was poll watching yesterday.

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