2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI am a Cuyahoga Cty poll observer at a poll in
Cleveland since 5:45 am.
High turn out. Many provisional ballots due to voters requesting and NOT getting absentee ballots OR received absentee ballots but changed their mind and thought the could vote in person-which they cannot.
Heard that 2 GOP poll works were EJECTED for using GOP apps on their phones to report to GOP about voter numbers.
Half of voting machine problems state wide are in Cuyahoaga County, causing long lines.
Please, please send all of your most positive thoughts and prayers to Ohio. Please beam us your love and positive energy....please.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Ballot was not scanned.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)and all the poll workers in Cuyahoga county.
Godspeed.
gottavote
(106 posts)factsarenotfair
(910 posts)Is this only in OH?
MSMITH33156
(879 posts)in Virginia they had a big sign saying no electronic devices beyond this point. My guess is they got tossed for violating something similar.
LTR
(13,227 posts)I doubt the GOP created it, as I don't think they want something like that coming back to them. I tried to do a search on Google but no luck.
The only thing I found was the Republican Voter Suppression App, though that was made by the people at The Onion as a joke.
Still, would like to know more about this underground RW voter app that encourages illegal behavior.
Stargazer09
(2,132 posts)And THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU ARE DOING!
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)in most States they won't really count. I told my girls months ago to check a Month in ADVANCE to be sure they are good to vote. We need to get that message out for the next election. Sending good thoughts to you!
MSMITH33156
(879 posts)most provisional ballots are tossed out because the reason for the use of the ballot was improper ID, not registered, etc., which, upon closer inspection, meant that the vote was not legal. If the reason for these provisional ballots (or most of them) are that absentee ballots were requested but not returned, these absolutely will be counted.
It's also important to note that prior to the introduction of provisional ballots, these same people were just turned away. So this is much better.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Cuyahoga sounds like an absolute nightmare with all the voting machine issues.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I warned here this year based on my experience in 2008. A single polling place, two machines, two precincts, one primarily white, the other primarily black, and the machine in the black precinct broke down. The State of Ohio had established a pattern. Since 2004 if I remember correctly, Ohio African-Americans had a harder time exercising their right to vote than do Ohio white people.
There is a chance that this is just perception or merely coincidence. But I honestly think it is by design. Just my opinion, but I hope that the Obama Justice Dept. comes down hard on Ohio authorities of the voting does not proceed smoothly across the state. There is no excuse for this.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)and drop it off there?
LisaL
(44,973 posts)No Vested Interest
(5,167 posts)must be delivered to the county Board of Elections.
Voters can still do that today, if they have the ballot and are willing to go to the county BOE, usually in the county seat.
merrily
(45,251 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)karmaqueen
(714 posts)Thanks for all the hard work!
Suich
(10,642 posts)Positive thoughts and prayers coming your way!
Maven
(10,533 posts)LibGranny
(711 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)yellerpup
(12,253 posts)certainty that you are the perfect person to complete this mission with grace, fairness, and humor.
EC
(12,287 posts)Your SOS just sent out 5m absentee ballots to people who DID NOT REQUEST them - so now when they go to the polls they are listed as absentee ballot when they didn't request them at all but now will have to fill out provisional. That sucks. Your SOS is a piece of shit...I think he is even worse than Blackwell was.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)So some people filled them out, but didn't realize they won't be able to vote in person if they got a ballot.
Mz Pip
(27,451 posts)It seems like a lot since Ohio only has about 12 million people. NYTime said 200,000 provisional ballots.
Thisis such a mess I don't know what to believe.
mailman82
(399 posts)woolldog
(8,791 posts)Mz Pip
(27,451 posts)3 fishy things happened. They never received a request for an absentee ballot which they always got when there was a Democratic Sec of State; they never received notice of where their polling place was; and (the most suspicious) they received a nice card addressed to them personally from the DCP(hah!) on where to go for early voting. It turned out to be in another county out in the middle of nowhere.
She said her husband got to the polls at 6:30 am. It was crowded but the polls were not set up; no pens, lots of confusion.
For all of our problems. CA seems to be able to handle voting. Half the state votes absentee and there always seem to be plenty of polling places.
My son voted in lower Manhattan today. No problems. If NYC can get it together after a hurricane, WTF can't Ohio when it didn't even have one?
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Mz Pip
(27,451 posts)If NYC can do it right after a hurricane, Ohio should be able to do it without one.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)just not nearly as hard as NY.
Mz Pip
(27,451 posts)but it seems like Ohio's problems are generated by incompetence or malfeasance rather than forces of nature.
It really shouldn't be so hard to get it right.
In the 40 years I've been voting in CA I've never had a problem. WHen I used to vote at the polls I never had to wait more than about 10 minutes. I would always get a notification as to where I was supposed to vote. Now that I vote absentee I always receive my voter info and absentee ballot in plenty of time.
efhmc
(14,726 posts)Please don't be rude to people.
hoboken123
(251 posts)Or am I just responding to a troll?
Inuca
(8,945 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)What do you like on your pizza, genius?
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)And his pals.
mnhtnbb
(31,392 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)We have very few problems because we have Democrats as SoS. Even when steroid boy was governor, we had a Dem SoS. There was a very brief period, during steroid boy's reign, when we had a rethug SoS. He approved crooked diebold machines. because we have odd year state office elections, he was gone and Democratic SoS Debra Bowen took office. De-certified diebold & streamlined voter registration. This year your could register online. By 2016 we will be a same day register/vote state.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)triplepoint
(431 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:49 PM - Edit history (1)
They are literally thrown in the trash and not counted. Don't accept a Provisional Ballot...EVER!
patrice
(47,992 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Sending positive vibes your way.
RedCloud
(9,230 posts)Truly some state officals need to serve hard time with Bubba.
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)Ninga
(8,275 posts)voting here has not slowed down, while provisional ballots have slowed to about 3 or 4 every hour.
I was verbally confronted 2 separate times, each by a large white, angry male 55-65 yrs shouting encroaching on my personal space telling me how awful horrible and threating I was (68 yrs, 4'11" as a poll observer. I did not blink, nor respond, I just stood and took it.
The GOP never fails to disappoint me, no matter how long I wait.
yardwork
(61,650 posts)wryter2000
(46,051 posts)femrap
(13,418 posts)if a Dem requests an absentee ballot and then decides to show up on Election Day to vote. If it is a repugnant, I'm happy.
Scruffy Rumbler
(961 posts)mlevans
(843 posts)In PA, even if somebody has already sent in an absentee ballot they can vote in person and are encouraged to do so. When they arrive at their polling place they just need to talk to the judge of elections and he/she will void their absentee ballot so that there's no question of anybody voting twice. I observed a couple cases like this when I was poll watching yesterday.