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elfin

(6,262 posts)
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:45 PM Nov 2012

WI. Does this incident count as "voter intimidation"? And how to report if yes?

I voted early, BUT my neighbor just called me with an incident at our polling station deep in " Walkersha" county. She is on the road the rest of the day, so I told her I would do some homework on if and where she should report the incident.

It is this. When she went to post her ballot ( for Obama and Baldwin) into the machine with the top side up as you need to do, a poll worker was stationed right on top of it, seeing how she voted before he gave her the "I voted" sticker. He could see how she had marked her ballot in that we use the type where you draw in the lines with a marker.

She and I both know this person to be a fundie winger.

No, she was not prevented in casting her ballot, but she "felt" intimidated by his location and the fact that this ward has such a terrible reputation for " discovering" ballots that just happen to change election results in favor of Repugs. The Prosser recall was the most egregious.

Is this worthy of a complaint, and if so, to whom? Thanks in advance.

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WI. Does this incident count as "voter intimidation"? And how to report if yes? (Original Post) elfin Nov 2012 OP
I'd call the chief elections inspector or the municipal clerk Lefta Dissenter Nov 2012 #1
It is the way the machine reads the vote. Eom elfin Nov 2012 #4
That doesn't seem right ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2012 #6
I vote in Bayside. postulater Nov 2012 #8
Getting different info on the sides from different people elfin Nov 2012 #11
When I used to do the machine tests, Lefta Dissenter Nov 2012 #16
Update - friend called clerk's office elfin Nov 2012 #14
She will call the clerk, even though that office is bad. elfin Nov 2012 #9
No, just anxiety Rider3 Nov 2012 #2
Call one of the voter hotlines. JRLeft Nov 2012 #3
Looking for the numbers for this area elfin Nov 2012 #5
In case you want to call... SoapBox Nov 2012 #7
Thanks to all. elfin Nov 2012 #10
Having been an experienced poll worker I would say NO- not voter intimidation, BUT cecilfirefox Nov 2012 #12
Yes, gave her the clerk's number elfin Nov 2012 #13
The whole point of HAVA Lefta Dissenter Nov 2012 #15
I would report it. ARMYofONE Nov 2012 #17

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
1. I'd call the chief elections inspector or the municipal clerk
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:49 PM
Nov 2012

and ask that they make sure ballot folders are made available. And have they told people to put the ballots in face-up? Why?

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
6. That doesn't seem right
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:09 PM
Nov 2012

In RI, you can feed it into the machine either way, because there are often two sides.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
8. I vote in Bayside.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:16 PM
Nov 2012

In another election they told me the machine counts the ballot regardless of which side is up or down or front or back.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
11. Getting different info on the sides from different people
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:26 PM
Nov 2012

Good to check out for our ward for future reference. I remember once having to put it in again, because I had put it in wrong and it spit it out. But could have been long enough ago that the machines are different now.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
16. When I used to do the machine tests,
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:31 PM
Nov 2012

I'd put the ballots in every which way, to make sure the machine didn't care about the direction. Head first, tail first, face up, face down.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
14. Update - friend called clerk's office
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 04:28 PM
Nov 2012

The poll worker was indeed too close to the machine per training, and the ward will be called today.

Thanks to all for advice.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
9. She will call the clerk, even though that office is bad.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:22 PM
Nov 2012

Because she was not prevented from voting, it is a question of poll worker training to avoid any anxious feelings.

Rider3

(919 posts)
2. No, just anxiety
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:49 PM
Nov 2012

IMO, there's nothing that can be done, as she was allowed to vote. I think we're all anxious, and we KNOW that the Republicans are having a field day trying to rig the system, but it's all speculation to the authorities. I mean, even the idiot in Virginia who threw out 8 Democrat early-voting ballots wasn't even reprimanded!

elfin

(6,262 posts)
5. Looking for the numbers for this area
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:59 PM
Nov 2012

Don't want to call Waukesha county clerk's office, because that is suspect on many levels.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
7. In case you want to call...
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:11 PM
Nov 2012

Call OFA and the voter hotline. 866-OUR-VOTE (1-866-687-8683)

The above was from another thread...link below:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021728184

ALSO, just found this in another post:

"The Obama Campaign Voter Hotline: 1-800-311-VOTE (8623)"

cecilfirefox

(784 posts)
12. Having been an experienced poll worker I would say NO- not voter intimidation, BUT
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:32 PM
Nov 2012

If she felt that he was deliberately looking down at her ballot, at her choices, to see what she chose, and that this wasn't just him standing over the machine, watching, or working, etc., then she could have something to complain about.

The truth is that, as poll workers, you will help people vote, sometimes elderly or sick individuals who literally need you to move their hands and help them make their selections, etc., sometimes you will see how people vote, it just happens, its in eyesight, your working, etc. It's a bit of a fine line, you shouldn't be looking, obviously, but she should hopefully be able to tell how she felt was he acting. If she thinks there was a problem she should call the County Clerk- SHE should do it, not you. No one wants to hear from a friend of a friend, you get the people directly involved in it to step up.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
13. Yes, gave her the clerk's number
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:47 PM
Nov 2012

Just helping her out with some homework. She will call,if she feels necessary.

She was "spooked", and knowing the guy myself, so would I have been. But I am the type of personality to give him a "back off" look at the time of ballot machine interaction and wait until he stepped away.

He and his wife are gladhanding creepy and very active Teabaggers, with their very own "newsletter" combining religion and politics. Also make money with propaganda DVRs along the same lines.

Again, thanks all for the input and info.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
15. The whole point of HAVA
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:30 PM
Nov 2012

was to ensure that every voter could vote privately without assistance. Of course, that's not the reality, but it was the intent.

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