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courseofhistory

(801 posts)
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:25 PM Nov 2012

Sam Wang of Princenton EC explains how polls are valued and used Very interesting & COMFORTING

for those worried and wondering how accurate the polls/predictions are.

Presidential prediction 2012 (Election Eve)

November 6th, 2012, 1:47am by Sam Wang

If state polls perform as well as they did in 2004 and 2008, most aggregators should get within +/-15 electoral votes and 48/51 races correct. The question is how to squeeze a bit more out of the data.

The topline listed just below the title of this website is not our prediction, but the automatically-generated snapshot. It will fluctuate as the last few polls trickle in. The last 3 updates are at 8:00am, 10:00am, and noon. Then we freeze it.

I make two electoral predictions.

ELECTORAL PREDICTION (mode): Barack Obama 332 EV, Mitt Romney 206 EV. The mode is the single most frequent value on the histogram. It corresponds to the map below, and has a chance of being exactly correct.

ELECTORAL PREDICTION (median): Obama 309 EV, Romney 229 EV, Popular Vote Meta-Margin Obama +2.34%. This is the automatically-generated snapshot for November 5th 8:00pm. This prediction is almost guaranteed to be off, since 309 EV is not a common combination. (Note: I’ll edit this with the last few updates.)

ALL-STATE PREDICTION (binary outcomes):


Most outcomes arose clearly from the median of the last week of polling. The exception was Florida, for which I used polls with at least half of their respondents on Nov. 1 or after. This gave a median margin of Obama +0.5 +/- 0.8% (n=10), for a win probability of 72%. I will be unsurprised for it to go the other way (outcome Obama 303 EV, Romney 235 EV). In Florida, a recount is triggered by a margin of 0.5% or less (recount rules, Brennan Center for Justice). There is about a 50-50 chance that we will see that happen.

The next-closest states are Colorado, Virginia, and North Carolina, with margins of less than 2.0%. Excluding these three states and Florida still leaves Obama 281 EV, Romney 191 EV.

In addition to all-or-none outcomes, later today I will provide final polling medians in graphical form in the Geek’s Guide. I hope it will be useful as you follow the returns.


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http://election.princeton.edu/2012/11/06/presidential-final-prediction-2012-election-eve-final/
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Sam Wang of Princenton EC explains how polls are valued and used Very interesting & COMFORTING (Original Post) courseofhistory Nov 2012 OP
As I recall, in 2008 Nate Silver only SheilaT Nov 2012 #1
Silver's only miss was Indiana Hokie Nov 2012 #2
Close. It was actually IN hogwyld Nov 2012 #3
It was Indiana. They went for Obama by 1%. nt octoberlib Nov 2012 #4
And Missouri Was Damn Close Yavin4 Nov 2012 #5
Aha! That's why I'm mis-remembering his one wrong call SheilaT Nov 2012 #6
Wasn't Sam Wang's 2008 prediction off by just 1 Electoral vote? Grammy23 Nov 2012 #7
yes....n/t courseofhistory Nov 2012 #8
This guy, Sam Wang was only off by 2 EV???? WOW. Where has he been onecent Nov 2012 #9
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
1. As I recall, in 2008 Nate Silver only
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:32 PM
Nov 2012

got one state wrong. I'm thinking it was Missouri, but not entirely sure.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
9. This guy, Sam Wang was only off by 2 EV???? WOW. Where has he been
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:30 PM
Nov 2012

I have never heard of this before. THANK YOU FOR POSTING - whoever posted this...sorry, i was responding because I couldn't believe how accurate this fella was. I was aware of Nate Silver, but it's WONDERFUL to know about both of these. WOW

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