Putting a skunk in your sleeping bag because it's caught out in the cold is usually a stinking mistake.

please clarify

Your post is unclear.

now that republicans seem to be warming to Hillary, what is your beef?

So they'd rather go with Hillary even if they think she's much too liberal.

to at least try and conform to the spirit of the rules? There are plenty of other places on the Internet where you can trash Democrats all you want.

its impossible for you.

and dreaming.

Even though you have no evidence of your contention and ours makes much more sense, considering it's what the majority of these crossover Republicans are actually saying.

And no, no fireworks here. It's raining.

Ta ta!

abandoning the repug ship.

Had he done it would be because his ideas are great

Lol

Maybe we should just post replies with a title of "." and no text, like in "silent threads." Since, you know, we've been silenced.

Happy Friday!

You just can't try to help Trump win.

Not an unreasonable rule.

Why post on du if you don't like its objectives, Don't websites like JPR and discussionist afford ample opportunity to trash Hillary?

Thank you for your kind concern.

If you're not for Trump, why trash Hillary and moan that you've been silenced?

It doesn't compute.

So if one were here to help Republicans or disrupt, they might feel like they were silenced.

You still won't be allowed to bash Democrats, no matter how much you might want to.

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Go ahead, get it out of your system. You know you want to say it.

I have several republican friends that will vote for hillary to stop trump from doing so....they actually care about america and are not the typical conservative zealot

Follow the money

....regardless of the source.

A vote's a vote. The more the merrier.

country down. Is that a problem?

...or that wouldn't be the case.

They know Trump spells their doom.

The praise HRC is getting from some republican may be tepid, but it's still praise from republicans! If the Democratic Party had been a true opposition party for the last 35 years, instead of veering to the right, we wouldn't have a tea party & Donald Trump.

Obama is just an icon for the party in this cartoon.

Is it only big tent when it's Hilary? But perfectly sized tent when it's sanders?

would be democrats if dems were even further left? Do you hate the Democratic Party? What else would explain that comment?

Both parties veered to the right - the GOP radically so, hence, the tea party. But the dems veered off enough so that now, 'reasonable republicans' find HRC an acceptable choice. If we had had a true opposition party the past 35 years, the GOP would not have drifted so far right. But the dems tucked tail & ran, the first time someone poked fun at the word liberal. I know a lot of dems don't want to admit that the Democratic Party was complicit in the radical right wing take-over of the republican party, but it was.

I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me.

In November, I'll clamp my nose tightly & vote for HRC.

So Republicans created a lunatic movement to oppose him.

Nothing they were about was rational.

Please don't try to invent your own version of history.

I don't know why anyone should be surprised.

To drive liberals away from her and to drive Trump supporters away from her. Win Win for them to endorse.

A party with a platform like Sanders would easily get 30-50% in Europe. Easily. Sanders' demands are not fringe.

Clinton is a fairly standard center to center-right politician, but in the US she counts as left.

And the GOP has moved so far to the extreme right that they have fooled everybody into thinking it's a moderate right.

no matter how many time a BS supporter makes that claim.

She's a moderate capitalist.
She's for a militaristic foreign-policy.
On social issues, she's a liberal.

That makes her center-right.

Glad we could help you with that.

Now we don't have to waste time talking about what she "would be" in say Ghana or Vietnam. Because it's not relevant.

By your standard of international comparisons, Republicans would be far left, in comparison to many Middle Eastern Countries because of ther civil rights (especially toward women) laws and policies.

Believe it or not, there are some individual countries in Europe, with different political systems and beliefs.

make a u-turn & say well in Europe😂😂😂😂

You should've just led with in Europe so we would know you weren't trying to discuss our political system.
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If you look at my original post #13 you will see that I talk about the political spectrum of the US compared to the one of Europe.

So... yeah... I was talking from an international perspective the whole time.

Wanna make a U-turn and pretend that you never wrote what you just wrote?

Could have sworn Hillary's not running for President of Europe, either.

There seem to be a lot of people on the American left who think that European politics is a monolith and it's all like Scandinavia.

Scandinavia is more to the left, the UK is a neoliberal paradise, Italy's parliament has 20+ splintered political parties anywhere from far left to far right who fight each other all the time, Poland and Hungary have drifted towards nationalism in the recent years but not that much towards capitalism, there is a growing polarization between left and right in Germany and Austria while still staying overall somewhat center, Greece switched from decades of anything-goes-capitalism to suddenly fighting for the little guy, Romania is a capitalist heaven where you can do almost anything if you know whom to bribe...

Many on the American left have a ridiculously idealized view of what Europe is actually like.

As per the former RNC communications guy last summer about a month after Trump jumped into the race "Trump's supporters are the poorest educated of the Republican Party. A group that voted overwhelmingly for Hillary in the primaries were better educated white people. Common thread.

There was a good reason they played Bernie with kid gloves while stabbing at Hillary at every turn. It was to meet their own ends.

Now we have them fawning over Hillary. Again, it's to meet their own ends. They can't get rid of Trump at the Convention, and in order to save a teeny tiny shred of decency on which to grow the future of their party, they must not allow Trump into the Whitehouse.

it "is going the way of the Whigs."

I guess we'll find out soon enough whether grave dancing is called for (unintended consequences and all that) but in the mean time we have an unprecedented opportunity to get some amazing things done.

It's a great time to be a Democrat.

I saw her on TV yesterday and she looked terrible. Not just older, we all age, even me (so I've been told).
But she looked as if she's been ill, or something.

But I never said they were all stupid .

WONDER WHY???

That's obvious for anyone not still fighting the primary.

Positions, several of them ought to support her based on her ideas.

And, as others have pointed out, I thought we were told earlier that appealing to voters outside the Dem party was a good thing.

Which might not happen if Trump is president. They figure that with Hillary they can try to rebuild the party and run somebody against her in 4 years, but with Trump not just the Republican Party but America itself could end up destroyed.

The Republican elites who have said they are willing to be crossover voters and give carriage to presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton…they absolutely do not want 2016 Republican presumptive nominee Donald Trump to be the 45th president of the United States.

I suspect, once Election Night plays out, I will see exit polls (state-by-state and especially nationwide) which tell the narrative that Hillary held up more self-identified Democrats than Trump did with self-identified Republicans. In addition, this also indicates, since no R or D carries 100 percent party support, that Hillary will do better winning however many willing crossover Rs-to-D than Trump will with Ds-to-R. And, whipping into shape a remarkable victory, the independent vote will end up carrying for Hillary (even if it is only by +1).

The thing nobody should want is for these Republican elites to influence the future of the Democratic Party. Their votes would be a help with respect for numbers and winning. But, if they want to influence the party generally…no thank you!

With his Ivy League edumacashun, Mitt should know the difference between "perimeter" and "parameter." Sigh...

than Trump's completely arbitrarily random war platform.