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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 02:09 PM Jul 2016

Fact Checker: Did Hillary Clinton ‘shame’ women who made sexual allegations against her husband?

By Michelle Ye Hee Lee June 29

“So who is all for women until she isn’t? When Bill Cosby was accused of sexual assault, Mrs. Clinton tweeted, ‘Every survivor of sexual assault deserves to be believed.’ But when another Bill (Clinton) was accused of sexual assault? Not so much. … She savaged their dignity and shamed them. (Shows a video clip of Clinton saying) ‘Some folks are going to have a lot to answer for.’”

–Voiceover and video clip in political ad by pro-Donald Trump group Rebuilding America Now

This political ad by a pro-Trump super PAC attacks Hillary Clinton over her response to women who made sexual allegations against her husband. The ad begins with a reference to a post on Twitter by the Hillary Clinton campaign, noting it was published “when Bill Cosby was accused of sexual assault.” The ad goes on to say that she reacted differently to allegations about her husband.

“She savaged their dignity and shamed them,” the narrator says, as the following text appears on screen: “The Clinton effort used words like ‘floozy,’ ‘bimbo’ and ‘stalker.’” Then a video clip airs of Clinton saying, “Some folks are going to have a lot to answer for,” and gives the impression that she was making those comments in response to the women who had made sexual allegations against her husband.

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The Pinocchio Test

This ad employs sound, video and text editing to create quite a misleading impression to the viewers. First, the narrator says that “When Bill Cosby was accused of sexual assault, Mrs. Clinton tweeted, ‘Every survivor of sexual assault deserves to be believed.’” Yet the tweet did not mention Cosby. It includes a link to her plan to address campus sexual assaults, and apparently coincided the airing of a documentary on the issue.

Later in the ad, the narrator says Hillary Clinton “savaged their dignity and shamed them,” and immediately shows a clip of Clinton saying, “Some folks are going to have a lot to answer for,” implying Clinton was referring to the women. But in the context of the full interview, that’s not exactly clear; Clinton appears to be blaming political opponents of her husband.

We wavered between Two and Three Pinocchios. As regular readers know, editing jobs in political ads that risk misleading the public almost automatically qualify for Two Pinocchios under our standards. The group says it’s “fair to assume” that Clinton would have known that her tweet would read as a commentary on the larger issue of sexual assault, and that it’s “fair to interpret” that her claim in the Today Show interview was a “threat that she was going to exploit” the women. We find that a stretch, and admakers deliberately made assumptions and interpretations to arrange audio, text and video in a way that misleads viewers. That tips it to Three Pinocchios.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/06/29/pro-trump-groups-ad-misrepresents-hillary-clintons-comments-about-women/?wpisrc=nl_fact&wpmm=1

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Fact Checker: Did Hillary Clinton ‘shame’ women who made sexual allegations against her husband? (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2016 OP
i had a bunch of windows open and mistaken alerted on this. it's also possible that i need more La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #1
HAHAHAHA psychmommy Jul 2016 #2
i know, i was being dumb. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #3
Thanks for the heads up; no worries! DonViejo Jul 2016 #5
K&R mcar Jul 2016 #4
Goes along with the remarks Trump makes about others, ad must have been listening to Trump Thinkingabout Jul 2016 #6
 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
1. i had a bunch of windows open and mistaken alerted on this. it's also possible that i need more
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jul 2016

coffee.

if it gets deleted, my BAD. really sorry i did that.

In case it does get deleted, please ask the admins to intervene as I clearly was in the wrong.

psychmommy

(1,739 posts)
2. HAHAHAHA
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jul 2016

I was on the jury for this. It appeared to be a mistake. Have some coffee, it really wasn't a bad article.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. Goes along with the remarks Trump makes about others, ad must have been listening to Trump
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 02:43 PM
Jul 2016

Talking points.

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