2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders stays quiet on FBI announcement about Clinton
On Tuesday afternoon, as much of the political world discussed the FBI's decision not to recommend criminal charges against Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders's campaign blasted a text message to supporters.
"Tell the DNC Platform Committee to make sure they include Bernie's amendment to oppose the TPP," said the text. "Sign & share with #StopTPPNow."
That, not the FBI, is Sanders's focus for the moment. According to a spokesman for Sanders, the senator from Vermont will not respond to the FBI's decision and is not altering his plan to remain a presidential candidate until the Democratic National Convention nominates Clinton.
Throughout his campaign for the presidency, Sanders refused to attack Clinton over the email episode. He alternately ruled it out as a legitimate issue, and hectored the media for focusing on scandal instead of substance.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/05/sanders-stays-quiet-on-fbi-announcement-on-clinton/
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)He still thinks he's relevant.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)It's kind of sad, really.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)One look at your journal shows that you are pretty much obsessed with him.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)discussion on this mans harm to the party.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)All he is, is an irritant to the party that is about harming the party.
No, all news is not good news.
It is defining who the man is, and it is not pretty. It is his repercussions for his choices he is making.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)drfinition of relevant. If, as you say, he is harming the party, that makes him relevant. If, as I say, he is trying to help the party move in a good direction, he is still relevant. The fact that we are having this conversation is evidence of his relevancy. If he were irrelevant, he would have no power to either help or harm the party. He obviously does have that power by your own admission. He is, therefore, relevant.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)discussion about a persons behavior does not make him relevant to the goals we pursue.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)would hinder your goals.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)rateyes
(17,438 posts)And, being relevant, the party has to deal with him and those of us who support the revolution of the Democratic Party.
Sorry to be a thorn in the side of the establishment, but we aren't going away.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Decades
rateyes
(17,438 posts)has done the bidding of Wall and K Streets for the past 2 1/2 decades. (Regardless of whether they call themselves Republican or Democrat)
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Supporters like to pretend his hand isn't out and his vote not for sale.
Now, we are arguing the primary that is over. Please quit calling all of us Dems who do not support Sanders as establishment as if that dismisses our voice. It is rude.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)you are one who has done Wall and K Streets bidding for the last 25 years.
And, I'm not arguing the primaries. I am arguing Bernie's relevancy. An argument that I have won. Of course, I doubt you will concede and endorse my point of view!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Establishment as any other politician!
rateyes
(17,438 posts)Democratic establishment. I assume that neither are you, though you are supporting the establishment candidate. Just like anti-establishment E. Warren is.
What does this side discussion have to do with Bernie's relevancy other than to highlight it?!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)You started about wall street, big money, hence the discussion. You portray Sanders above it all and he is right there with the rest. I am only following your conversation as you duck and dodge.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)are obviously one who feels the need to have the last word, go ahead and have it. Have a nice day.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)He keeps going on and on as if he was relevant. He keeps dissing Dems and issuing idle threats. But he's just making a fool of himself at this point. Sad.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Dude, don't be mad at me. Be mad at Bernie.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)amused that you constantly talk about Bernie and his affect on the party and the election while at the same time calling him irrelevant. You are contradicting yourself.
Here's my opinion on your efforts. Whether you want to admit it, or even realize it, at some level in your thought processes you know that Bernie is relevant. You don't like that, because it stands as an impediment to Hillary.
So, you keep pushing for him to concede and endorse because you know that as soon as he does, he becomes irrelevant.
Here is a newsflash for you and all the Bernie haters out there. He isn't going to concede and endorse before the vote on the floor in Philly. And, once he concedes, he may still not endorse.
In the end, it's not Bernie's endorsement that Hillary needs, it is progressives' votes. It is on HER, not HIM to deliver those votes.
For someone claiming he is irrelevant, you sure spend a lot of time here hoping he endorses her.
He is relevant and so are the 12 million people who preferred him over Hillary. So, please, keep talking about him. Nothing pleases me more!
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)If you can find a post from me pining for Bernie's endorsement please link to it. It hasn't mattered since Warren endorsed her. He blew it.
Save you lectures for people that do care - if you can find any.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)you spend an inordinate amount of time here on DU talking about what he does. Look at your own journal. Every post there is about Bernie.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)... and both are in response to Bernie supporters excusing his continued snide remarks and attacks on our nominee. Have a nice day.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)Have a wonderful Wednesday!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)We cant be critical of him here on DU, we cant be critical of him at that other "progressive" alternative website, etc. Meanwhile, he still hasnt conceded yet, and we're all supposed to walk on eggshells or face getting banned.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)Your post makes no sense.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)And posts like yours makes him even more so.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)rateyes
(17,438 posts)his supporters. See how well that works for Hillary.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Precious.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)The St. Louis fans are still fuming -- 30 years later.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)That was a lousy call that cost the Redbirds the Series!
bemildred
(90,061 posts)PJMcK
(22,048 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)When it comes to that sort of thing.
Nicely played.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)That is a very appropriate action for him to take.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)He's demonstrating that the Democratic party's values and positions are worth fighting for.
larkrake
(1,674 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)larkrake
(1,674 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Unity, respect for a historic nominee, campaigning for the nominee, and the fact that he lost months ago. Only 4 months until election, why is he waiting so long.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)The point of conceding would be to show respect for the actual American voters who chose the winner.
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)That hope is now gone. The Convention will proceed as expected. Sanders will really have to endorse Hillary Clinton if he is to have any relevance at all at this point.
larkrake
(1,674 posts)MineralMan
(146,325 posts)Sorry, but that's the fact of the matter.
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verb (used with object), endorsed, endorsing. Also, indorse (for defs 16).
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to approve, support, or sustain:
to endorse a political candidate.
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think
(11,641 posts)Would you care to comment?
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)He was correct in saying that no responsible prosecutor would bring a case, given the weak evidence available. But, he had to get his digs in at Clinton, who he has been after for many years.
His role in this is over now, although he'll probably have to sit in a congressional committee and face disgruntled Republicans asking him questions.
He couldn't recommend an indictment, because there is no case to present. I'm sure he is deeply saddened by that fact.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Well said.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)really?
that old tired talking point keeps getting the shit beaten out of it for it's falsehood.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)and is now likely to become fodder for ridicule if it's not too late.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)to "wait! The FBI got it wrong! Put her in prison!"
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)will be resurrected from the dead.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Get over Bernie already
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)this OP
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512240474
His words
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Get over Bernie already
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)You're not over the FACT that he LOST.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Feel with this type of loss.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Sanders also weighed in at a press conference on the FBI's decision not to recommend charges against Clinton for sending classified information over her private servers as secretary of State.
"I think youve heard me say from Day One that there is a process in terms of the investigation regarding Secretary Clinton and the emails," Sanders said. "Yesterday was an important part of that process. Now we wait to hear from the Justice Department."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/bernie-sanders-booed-house-democrats-225161#ixzz4DeDhyVnP