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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 09:52 AM Jul 2016

Democratic Delegates Should Help Save Obama’s Legacy By Blocking The TPP

Democratic Delegates Should Help Save Obama’s Legacy By Blocking The TPP
Mark Weisbrot
Huffington Post

There is also a lot of reporting that emphasizes how Democratic delegates, including members of Congress, don’t want to deny President Obama something that is important to his legacy. This is also something of an exaggeration. Most importantly, what kind of legacy is the TPP? Is Bill Clinton proud today of having rammed NAFTA through Congress, with a majority of Democratic Representatives voting against it? If he was, Hillary would be campaigning on it instead of running away from both that agreement and the TPP. And this latest agreement is pretty much guaranteed to be worse than NAFTA, given the number of countries and the rapid multiplication of lawsuits in recent years, by corporations seeking damages from governments under these agreements. If it passes, it will look much worse in the future than it does now, like George W. Bush’s legacy of the Iraq War. Better for those delegates who care about Obama’s legacy to protect it by blocking this agreement.

Finally, an interesting development this week: Senator Elizabeth Warren, a potential running mate for Hillary, released a powerful 5-minute video urging people to stop the TPP. The timing of this video, just before the current platform fight, is not coincidental. It is reminiscent of her famous New York Times op-ed just before the Iowa primary vote, which did not endorse Bernie, but was widely seen in political circles as boosting him with convincing arguments about the power of the chief executive to get things done in the face of an opposition Congress. Warren knows that the TPP and the issues it raises are going to be an important political battleground long after this presidential election, and she wants to be on the right side of history. Because she just might have a shot at being the next president after the one that is elected in November.


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Democratic Delegates Should Help Save Obama’s Legacy By Blocking The TPP (Original Post) portlander23 Jul 2016 OP
Here's an idea: let the President decide on what he wants his legacy to be. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #1
Democratic delegates should help save democratic principals by blocking TPP... pipoman Jul 2016 #2
Delegates don't have the power to block anything frazzled Jul 2016 #3
They should save it by insuring there is no TPP plank! MohRokTah Jul 2016 #4
Yay for corporate America and their stand ins! R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #5
Yay for ALL Americans and economic prosperity! MohRokTah Jul 2016 #6
Yay for the false corporate talking points about prosperity! R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #7
Flag on the play... MohRokTah Jul 2016 #8
Oh, aren't those cut and pastes so darn cute... R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #9
. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #10
Awwww... more cuteness. I'm sure you must have quite R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #11
. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #12
There ya go. But do you have any baseball cute picks to show off? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #13
NAFTA cost Democrats Congress for a generation. w4rma Jul 2016 #14
You way oversimplify the dynamics of the 1994 midterms. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #15

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. Delegates don't have the power to block anything
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jul 2016

And a platform plank does not have the power to block (or enact) anything: it's simply a statement of principals, which nominees and elected officials are free to support or not.

The only entities that can enact anything are the three branches of government, working in concert: legislators elected to Congress, the elected president and his or her administrative branch, and justices of the Supreme Court (nominated and confirmed by the other two branches).

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
4. They should save it by insuring there is no TPP plank!
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 12:15 PM
Jul 2016

TPP will be a shining piece of the Obama legacy insuring American goods get wider play in more markets globally, guaranteeing outstanding economic growth for decades to come!

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
6. Yay for ALL Americans and economic prosperity!
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jul 2016

Plus, we help the people of other nations to achieve better economic stability and prosperity at the same time!

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
13. There ya go. But do you have any baseball cute picks to show off?
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jul 2016

Better yet, how about a lobbyist motif.

Perhaps there are some picks of corporate lobbyists writing TPP legislation and saying something witty?

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
14. NAFTA cost Democrats Congress for a generation.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jul 2016

The TPP will do the same. Support the TPP and lose elections.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
15. You way oversimplify the dynamics of the 1994 midterms.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jul 2016

Also, NAFTA has been a positive for the overall US economy, far outweighing any negative.

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