2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAfter Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton tomorrow,
There will no longer be any excuse for his supporters not to join him in helping Clinton become President.
Anyone who can't see that as the message from Sanders is probably not on our side in any way, I think. I look forward to Bernie's endorsement and to a Yuuuge turnout in November.
Hillary 2016!
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)This year has proven that there are a lot of progressives who feel they are too good for the Democratic party. I say, be too good somewhere else!
PJMcK
(22,052 posts)Hillary Clinton needs every vote she can get. Her win should not be a squeaker. She needs both Houses to flip and she needs a mandate from the voters to overpower the Republicans.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)MineralMan
(146,333 posts)If Trump depresses Republican turnout sufficiently, regaining a majority in the House is possible. Perhaps unlikely, but with an outstanding GOTV campaign in districts that might be flipped, we could do it in 2016. That's my goal. There are two potential districts in Minnesota that could be flipped, for example. It's a distinct possibility that we can take both of those.
If Trump is the nominee, which seems almost certain, many Republicans will simply stay home on election day. That is our opportunity. We need ever Democrat to vote in November.
GOTV 2016!
Orsino
(37,428 posts)There may need to be a lot of nose-holding, but even the most corpirate Dems are less likely to filibuster needed progress. Let's flip the script.
US 2016!
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)We can work hard to get out the vote and change things, or not. I'll be doing that. I hope everyone else does, too.
PJMcK
(22,052 posts)You're most likely correct, JRLeft. But the presidency and the Senate are attainable goals. But so are the local and state campaigns. That's why I suggested that every vote for our side helps across the political terrain.
And I know you already know that. (wink)
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)If Hillary wins by a good amount...there is a chance to end the gerrymander...the only other way to end it is to vote out GOP governors...and if that does not happen...then another ten years of this nonsense. We must take a majority of the governorships and/or statehouses by 2020.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)The SCOTUS will nullify many of those gerrymandered districts (and some are DEM) and there will be a huge change.
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)It just seems so pointless to command people to support Hillary Clinton and then have them defiantly say how much they hate her. It seems like a really stupid and one-dimensional verbal game. People who hate Hillary Clinton this much and who believe every Republican talking point about her I believe should be written off.
PJMcK
(22,052 posts)In fact, except for giving directions at work, I wouldn't command anyone to do anything, bluedye.
My point was that there is a great need for our country to rid itself of the Republican cancer that exists at every level of our governments, from the president all the way down to dog catcher. So, every vote that comes our way is fine by me.
I agree with you whole-heartedly that those people who hate Secretary Clinton, whether from the right or the left, probably won't vote for her anyway. It would be unseemly to beg them for their vote. But we still need that Democratic dog catcher!
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)While most of his supporters will now back Hillary, there are some who will support Trump, Johnson, Stein or no one.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)That's obvious.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Those who never would have we can forget about except to smack them down when they show up here trying to undermine our candidates and/or party.
Those who are just not ready to decide, or admit a decision, should be left alone to make up their minds. None of them needs to present an excuse for supporting or not supporting anyone, just respect the terms and goals of the site.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)4 months to go before the General Election, and that's a lot of time. Also,
Trump is too much for people to take - even for many Republicans. I just
can't see him winning in a GE against anyone. Still, I agree we should all
do our best, just to be on the safe side.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It has been clear for months as to who the nominee is going to be. The fact Clinton walked away with this one is why unification has happened in such quick order. While Sanders endorsement isn't insignificant, I will argue at this late point that it will help him more than Clinton. Strange times.
PJMcK
(22,052 posts)Once the fall campaign begins, don't you think that most left-leaning voters will usually vote for the Democratic nominee?
Also, doesn't it seem to you, MineralMan, that the loudest voices often represent the smallest minority? Perhaps the influence of the Sanders Diehards is far less than they claim.
It's really quite simple, now. We need to elect Democratic candidates up and down the ballot.
democrattotheend
(11,607 posts)You certainly have not been one of them - you have been very fair. But even after it was announced that Bernie would endorse Hillary, several Clinton supporters on here have been grumbling about how it's too little too late. Unity goes both ways.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)primary supporters need to bury any animosity they have towards Sanders and his Democratic supporters. Not an unreasonable sacrifice.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)what 'switch' is flipped here for that to such a blanket statement MM?
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)MineralMan
(146,333 posts)My post is about an election and people voting in that election.
Bernie Sanders is going to recommend that his supporters vote for Hillary Clinton. That's what this post is about.
I've not seen any announcement of any revolution. Perhaps you have.